No, no, no. It depends on your perspective. Viewed from the left, Nazi extremist actions are the gift that keeps on giving. High profile right-wing violence gathers a lot of attention in the Mainstream Media, allowing the leftwing commentators to say, "see how dangerous conservative ideas are. They need to be suppressed." It becomes easy for the Media to label reasonable conservative statements as a dog whistle for racist or fascist sympathies.
As a consequence, viewed from the right, the Nazi extremist actions are extremely counterproductive to the promotion of conservative ideas. Conservatives should be hugely thankful that these individuals are working to dismantle these groups, however small in the number they are.
No we're not hugely thankful because this just tries to shine a spotlight on a problem that exists only in the febrile nightmares of the lunatic left and the demented geezer whom they installed as our Dear Leader. And Bari's allowing this garbage to be printed - when there are real problems to address - is concerning.
It's not garbage, Bruce. This man and his group are not diverting resources from other problems--they're working their own part of the street. They identified a problem that concerns them--Nazis in America--they are tackling it one skinhead at a time. These efforts have handed prosecutors significant information they've used to put Nazis in jail--at no cost to taxpayers.
The Atomwaffen viruses might be small change relative to other crime in this country, but it's not zero, either. I applaud the sergeant and his team for making our nation just a little bit safer than it was before they came along.
You're entitled to your opinion, Shane, but in the great scheme of things we have a lot more to worry about than a handful of freaks. Especially when the Imbecile in Chief has opened our borders to a real threat and seems to agree with this nut that white nationalists are the problem.
Again, Bruce, why do you care what this guy does about Nazis when he's not asking for your money or help? If he and his team take a dozen assholes off the board every year, that's a dozen fewer assholes causing trouble for honest Americans. Why call him a nut and loser when he's performing a public service that doesn't cost you one thin dime?
I admire the guy for putting his money where his mouth is. He was troubled, drunk, and suicidal, but he also hunted our enemies in Afghanistan, he turned his life around, and now he's helping all of us in his little way. I will not shit in his Wheaties for wanting to do that.
I don't care what he does. I do care that the almost non-existent threat of American nazis or white supremacists is given traction. It's a ADL canard, amplified by the FBI and screeched by the Senile Imbecile in the Oval Office. Meanwhile we have real threats - the open border being the most significant - that are being ignored. Worse they are being pushed.
I also find his tale highly doubtful and suspicious but that's a different matter.
Fine, and mostly quite reasonable, but there is one small problem which is that the nation's attention is conserved -- we can only spend so much time worrying about things and it is best if we worry in proportion to the actual threat. In practice Nazis are a minuscule problem. Drug crime is 10,000X greater threat to society.
Sure, what he is doing is admirable, however it feels like there are many more raging lunatics on the left like antifa - he could be so much more productive!
I agree. Interestingly in the comments, neo nazi organizations, white supremacists, it's like yeah - no big deal. No story here. But if the guy was going after antifa or BLM rioters in his quixotic way - I think you would have heard cheers up and down this thread..
These are not mutually exclusive issues. The unchecked illegal immigration is a real and pressing problem, but the nazis (in all their flavors) do kill people and a couple decades ago did have a bombing campaign. Both are problems and I'm thankful for these vets that are doing what they can.
Good comment. I think the far left is a bigger problem for this country but I'm for rooting out any form of extremism and the posters to this article should be too. No need to play "whataboutism" games. Nazism is a great evil.
If the skinheads do video interviews, which it sounds like they might...
Then again he says they're a bunch of dummies, which cuts a bit against the notion that they're an urgent insidious threat requiring mercenary intel skullduggery to stop.
Cancel culture here? Isn't it all about hearing what's going on so we can logically discuss and debate rather than referring to stories and perspectives we don't like as "garbage?"
Oh, FFS. You do not understand what Cancel Culture is. No one is stopping Bari Weiss from publishing whatever she wants. Do you think commenters here have that power?
People are commenting that this guy sounds like a sociopathic loser. A couple of nightmares from doing stupid shit.
Sue, what do you think is the motivation for Mr. Goldsmith to 'tell his story' again to TFP? He's told it before in Rolling Stone magazine, 1-year ago, Feb '23.
I currently fall on side of this story is red meat, but I'm willing to have my mind changed.
I come at this under the premise that US citizens have a right to say whatever you want in this country, even if I don't like it. And that includes Left-wing nuts at UC Berkely bullhorn yelling "Intifada" at Jewish students the other day (w/ those students having to escape by tunnels). And it also includes the 'Nationalist Socialist Club-131' aka NSC-131 bringing signs to Beantown St. Patty's parade in 2021 stating 'Keep Boston Irish' or NSC-131 or protesting outside Drag Queen Story Hours in 2022 and 2023:
NSC-131 is the group that Mr. Goldsmith dropped 'breadcrumbs' to the Massachusetts AG to bring charges against them. But all the charges appear to be for words and demonstrations, and not actual violence. Bad words against LGBTQ+, Illegal Immigrants (civil rights violations, harassment/intimidation)
Below is the Southern Poverty Law Center's profile on the NSC-131 that Goldsmith's 'Project Husky' investigated. They are more critical, but I'd say they in-part stay in business by doing so.
It looks like NSC-131 was founded in 2019 and now has 30 to 40 members.
They don't sound like great guys (at all), but I'd say they do have the 1st Amendment right to make jackasses of themselves, as long as they are non-violent, which they appear to be. The only 'violence' I can find about NSC-131 from SPLC report is founders of NSC-131 being involved in kiddie-porn (where have I heard that before) and NSC-131 self-claiming they were at J6.
SPLC isn't a fair-and-balanced arbitrator any longer, which is very unfortunate. They really lost the plot when they refused to profile Antifa in any way in wake of George Floyd death and what looked like Antifa led burning/looting of several Metro areas across the country. The headlines at SPLC at this time (2020) were: "DESIGNATING ANTIFA AS DOMESTIC TERRORIST ORGANIZATION IS DANGEROUS, THREATENS CIVIL LIBERTIES"
Of course there's cancel culture here, Sue. Welcome to the comment section of FP. 'Debate and discuss'? Try that with people with narratives already baked in their heads..
I think we all should be thankfull to these vets. All of us, left, right, and in between. The new nazis might not have the numbers, but I'm old enough to remeber the Oklahoma bombing, and they didn't have numbers than.
PP, if you don’t discern the Fascist DNA in the Left, or sense that they NEED Trump and White Supremacist to creep up on the Walls of Troy, you may be sitting in that coffee shop.
They literally control the media, censorship, academia, teachers unions. Trump is toothless by comparison.
Strong disagree. In the minds of the American public, wavering between the GOP and the Democrats, one neo-Nazi outweighs 100 antifa when it comes to choosing a political "identity." Anything that stinks on the right is immediately attributed to "conservatives," whereas nothing that stinks on the left is ever attributed to progressives. A permanent "progressive" majority is the biggest problem facing the country and the far right is helping to make that happen.
Maybe you're right but then you're probably wrong. In the grand scheme of things, and if what is reported in this article is accurate, then I think he's doing the right thing.
Between 2013 and 2022, 444 people were killed by domestic extremists, which include white nationalists, white supremacists, and neo-Nazis. (Though Goldberg understands the distinctions, he casually uses the term “Nazi” in conversations to refer to all pro-white terrorist groups.)
Not minimizing their contribution to tragedy and real human suffering but is that contribution not significant enough to stand on its own?
If the top domestic terror threat is, (as characterized by the FBI and other law enforcement agencies) white supremacists why the more inclusive stat?
Perhaps you don't fit any of the categories they spend their lives fixating on and planning to kill. For those of us in their sights; it's not a comfortable feeling. And the article did say they work together with Jihadists, since they share a passion for Jew hate above all else
The belief that whites are killing blacks in the US is simply not true. Statistically it is the other way around. The rare case where a white person kills a black, even in self defense, is highly publicized but the reverse is ignored. Whatever happened to the black guy a few years ago in Wisconsin who intentionally drove his car through a Christmas parade route? How about the killings of Asian in NYC by blacks? Heather MacDonald has done a great job looking at the statistics of people killed by police nationwide. The concept that the cops are mass murdering blacks is demonstrably false. I will tell you right now that it's more dangerous for a white or asian to walk through a black urban neighborhood than the reverse would be.
The greatest danger blacks face is each other, not whites. Until we recognize that, nothing improves in the black community. I am with Malcolm X when he stated that the greatest danger the black community (Negro community in his words) faces is the white liberal.
As far as I'm aware, in the last 10 years or so there have been 3 anti-black terror attacks (in Charleston, Buffalo, and Jax). More quotidian interracial murder is not super common either, though there's more black on white than the reverse. So racist whities going after black people isn't a non-issue, but for some to treat it like it's THE issue is so out of proportion that an ulterior motive seems almost certain.
Doris, you are speaking from complete ignorance. The outfit (NSC-131) Mr. Goldsmith investigated and served up to Massachusetts AG didn't kill anyone. That's why they are being charged with civil rights violations.
The groups NSC-131 is being charged with harassing and intimidating by the Massachusetts AG are Illegal Immigrants and LGBTQ+ groups. The AG also doesn't like that NSC-131 was protesting outside Drag Queen Story Hours. NSC-131 also do not like Jews, but that does not appear to be their primary target. When I say 'they', I'm citing the Boston Globe who in 2023 put NSC-131 membership at 30-40 persons.
“Between 2013 and 2022, 444 people were killed by domestic extremists, which include white nationalists, white supremacists, and neo-Nazis. “
So this brave publicity seeker, who is merely giving the press exactly what they want to hear, has found that about 40 people a year have been killed by “domestic extremists”. And some unknown percentage of them are in some way tied to boogey man white people, who of course are the problem.
That’s about the body count in Chicago in a month or two.
And if you go to his website you’ll see that there is no organized effort to do anything about the “fascists” he claims to be fighting. No meetups. Nowhere for veterans like myself to ACTUALLY sign up beyond joining their email list. There IS however a handy “donate” button and some super sweet merch in case you want to support his quest to crush “fAsCiSm” (which in 2024 includes anyone to the right of AOC). It’s a grift. I can’t knock the hustle. If he found a way to milk money from the most insufferable white guilt stricken people among us good for him. but that’s all it is… I’ve never met a Neo Nazi. Granted I haven’t looked for them. But it seems like if they were that big of an issue we’d see them from time to time. I’m not saying they don’t exist but the small handful of them that do are where they belong… on the fringes of society being mocked and ridiculed.
Bingo I always joke with a buddy of mine about the boogie man of the “white supremacist“ as someone else said it’s the gift that keeps on giving.
People bring it up as some huge problem and I laugh and basically say “Yep it’s like 14 dudes in the basement and some small Alabama town. They have no power. They have no influence “
Yet we are consistently told by large segments of the left that it is the biggest problem in America
Suffering a 'woke progressive' government hell bent on social engineering. There's not a day goes by where the press is going nuts. Recent examples: The Feds refusing to finance roads over 75 kms, discussion about banning wood burning ovens for bagels and pizzas, to the more serious allowing the quasi-judicial Human Rights Commission to charge and prosecute hate speech, hate crimes, and incitement with up to life in prison; a sentence typically reserved for serial killers. Insanity! Not surprising Trudeau has the worst numbers in Canadian history. He'll be gone in 2025.
He makes a big show of fighting fascism (in fairness at least some of his targets actually are, by what used to be the universally accepted definition), and evidently was also the first ever guest on Stormy Daniels' podcast. I think most TFP readers are savvy enough to see what's up.
The group that Mr. Goldsmith provided 'breadcrumbs' to Massachusetts AG to charge with civil rights violations is NSC-131. The Boston Globe estimated in 2023 they had 30 to 40 members (based in New England). They (NSC-131) are being charged with harassing/intimidating Illegal Immigrants and LGBTQ+ at Drag Queen Story Hours. I've no doubt they are hard-right White Power nutcases. But I don't think they are a massive danger to inflict bodily harm. They were founded in 2019 and self-proclaimed they were at J6. Who knows is the J6 claims is in part, what brought them this attention.
Oh and theyre fighting the fascists that are being mean to the illegals that broke our laws to get here and are making every city in the country less safe while we pay for it? He’s truly doing gods work.
So this dude is out here trying to defend drag queens right to dress up like freaks and read stories to kids from the big mean maga fascists? Cool. Where can I donate?
Probably bc it becomes impossible for normal people to do anything but mock him when they realize his version of fighting Nazis is actually him out here defending weirdos that want to sexualize kids.
Given all the issues and problems we currently face, I really question the motivation for running this piece in the first place. Is it to help bolster the current administration's irrational fear mongering about "MAGA Republicans"?
As soon as I saw the headline and read the intro; this is exactly where my mind went. Let’s amplify a tiny group of freaks to encourage half of the population to continue to hate the other half. (Years ago my dad told me the difference between comservatives and liberals - conservatives think liberals are wrong and misguided. Liberals think conservatives are evil. That has only gotten worse - although I pretty much think the progressives - who aren’t at all liberal - are the truly evil ones.)
Sure, but obscure Sci-fi movie fans don't advocate hurting or killing people based on racial ideology. 50 armed folks who decide it's time for a war can do much more damage than 100s of people sending strongly worded emails and marching with colorful signs. The violence is why the cops spend so many resources hunting for a serial killer which is fairly rare, rather than nailing all the careless drivers who speed and drive unsafely and cause a much larger overall casualty count that one person. The drivers are not intentionally killing or hurting people, but the serial killer is.
Ha. Bingo. one of my life missions right now is to reclaim the word “liberal” I correct people all the time when they refer to leftist progressives as liberals.
That always seems to be O Wiseman’s objective-which is why I loathe seeing his name appear again and again. It is the not so subtle slant of elite superiority (not).
This article reads like a urban leftist's fantasy that the rest of the country is overrun by conservative, Trump-supporters who are all Nazis. The Biden Administration pushes the 'Nazis in America are the real threat' angle to distract from the millions of illegals pouring over our border ever year.
The group Mr. Goldsmith served up to Massachusetts AG is NSC-131. They are being charged with civil rights violations for harassing and intimidating Illegal Immigrants and LGBTQ+ (protesting at Drag Queen Story Hours). NSC-131 are a White Power organization of '30 to 40' members -- but they don't appear to be killers. They look to instead be guilty of saying the wrong words to the wrong groups.
This exact line struck me too. That, and conspiracy theorists who claim stolen elections are all white supremacists or white nationalists.
I’m just wondering what to call them if their names are Hilary Clinton or Stacy Abrams. Savers of democracy? Freedom fighters? Rational human beings? Ooh no I bet it’s antiracists.
Data. There is no real data anymore. There is a choice of data. My guess is that somewhere there is a datapoint that the person mentioned pulled to validate his importance.
There is no ability to interpret data. The reporter did not say “Sir, you are talking about an unknown percentage of 3 people a month being the victim of neo nazis in a country of over 300,000,000 people. Sir, why is this a crisis that warrants our attention?”.
Anyone without an agenda and with common sense would ask that question.
There were some examples given, so if we're talking about only 44 people a year, surely the details must be available. Were these murders actually committed for ideological reasons? Or is domestic violence by assholes who happen to identify as neo-Nazi being rolled into that number? Where did these murders occur? If it was in prison, I'm guessing there are probably more than 44 murders per year committed in prison by members of black and Hispanic gangs.
The article states that he is not targeting people who commit crimes or kill people. He and his group are filing civil charges with the intent to de-fund/bankrupt them.
Now, where have I heard that plan before..... hmmmmm?
Thought: If there are any civil charges filed by him or his org, they would be publicly filed. A quick google search should find them. Can you charge someone for being a racist? Unlikely, hate crimes if applicable, but that's a criminal matter not a civil one. (According to the DOJ).
Mr. Goldsmith provided his evidence to the Massachusetts AG against the group 'NSC-131'. They first came to attention when they showed up at Boston St. Patrick's Day parade with 'Keep Boston Irish' signs in 2021. The civil rights violation charges filed in Dec '23 are being brought by the AG, for intimidation of Illegal Immigrants and for protesting Drag Queen Story Hours:
Data: "Today homicide is the leading cause of death among young Black men, and contributes significantly to the shortened life-span of the Black male. In about 80-90% of the cases, the Black victim was killed by another Black, and about 52% of the murder victims were acquainted with their assailant." (US DOJ) or... 89% (FBI - 2016).
I guess you think it ain't a big deal, Philly. That's ok, of course.
Let's change the narrative slightly. If an antifa organization(s) (perhaps mixed in with some deluded 22 yr old college white students) started targeting Jews since 2013 and especially now since Oct 7 because they're anti Zionists and despise Israel, killing 444 people in eleven years, would you applaud this 'brave publicity seeker'? It still wouldn't be more than Chicago's body count, but would it be more justifiable for you then?
Well first off we don’t know that 444 people have been killed by NeoNazis. We are told that a percentage of them supposedly have been killed by NeoNazis. This fellow seems focused on the NeoNazis element. Could be 300 people, 200 people or 20 people. We also don’t know where the 444 number comes from.
More importantly, it seems hyped up to me. There seems to be a larger attempt to create a White Aryan danger when I don’t see one. This falls in with that myth and reinforces it. Are there White Aryans? I guess. Is there a huge movement? No. For gosh sake’s illegal immigrants have probably killed more than 400 people in the last 3 years and if we had someone like him tracking illegal immigrants he would be called a vigilante and locked up.
To me the article attempts to create a false equivalence between the danger of an organized white power movement and Antifa. There is no equivalence. Antifa has done more damage and killed and raped more in the last few years than white nationalists in the last few decades.
It also seems phony. Someone in that much danger is not that public. But maybe that my innate cynicism.
I think this is real. He's not a phony. Though somewhat self aggrandizing. I understand your point. But my point is that as I read through the comments, of which 90% deride him, the thrust of the article, and Bari for that matter - I get the feeling that because his campaign is against whites (let's face it..white supremacy) he is dismissed by people here. I apologize if I came across a little strong..
Lee i don't think you come across as too strong. You come across as wrong. The people here are saying 440 or so murders in 10 years is an insignificant number compared to the number of murders in major cities. Also
And my reply to you as with others here is that even though the number is insignificant- if that same number was applied to antifa killings over that same period, and this guy was going after them, I think there would be a different response here.
I think, based on video evidence from the summer of 2020, we can conclude that there are vastly more Antifa people PER MAJOR CITY than there are neo-Nazis in the entire U.S.
I get the impression that you don't think that's a big deal.
You do..."don't think that's a big deal"? Or you do think that's a big deal?
Are you seriously suggesting that it matters WHAT the race of a person who is murdered is? That it's okay for white Leftist Antifa to kill white people?
I guess if you only worry about murders that cross racial boundaries, that's a really simple way of ignoring the stats on who kills the vast majority of black men.
It’s even worse than that. 444 isn’t the amount that Neo-Nazis killed, it only includes those killed by white supremacists. So, ostensibly, a high percentage of those killed may have been killed by left wing extremist groups.
Now this is truly funny. We're told we're supposed to worry about a handful of nuts and losers supposedly trying to resurrect the Third Reich when we have a corrupt imbecile as president who has thrown open our borders, priced groceries out of reach for many Americans, is destroying our energy grid and igniting racial tension. Not to mention fomenting conflict abroad. Please get your head out of your ass and get serious. We're not paying for stupidity such as this.
Is there a word for someone who obsessively investigates and targets people based on their race? What if he has also established working relationships with the Feds to prosecute people but only of a particular race? Would they have fawning articles about them in the media or would they be loudly decried as racists? Also curious about all vast network of white supremacists who attacked and set afire our major cities in summer 2020. Is this Rambo investigating them as well?
Amen, brother. I am seriously beginning to question my subscription. I thought the FP was supposed to be better. Maybe the apple doesn't fall that far from the poisoned NYT tree after all?
Sorry you believe this madness. A few nuts celebrating Hitler's birthday is not a worry. An open border with close to 10 million pouring in with no end in sight is a big worry. Law enforcement can handle the few clowns who act out Nazi fantasies. But when we have a government that encourages and abets an illegal invasion we are in big trouble.
Sorry you feel that way, but why does the open border mean that nobody should be fighting against neo-Nazism on the right? Sounds to me like an excuse to avoid the issue.
They want us to think that every white, conservative, Trump-supporter in America is potentially just as dangerous as the thousands of illegals that pour across our border ever day.
It certainly seems like a "red meat" morning to me. Nazi hunters coupled with a leftist AI rewriting history and erasing White people from the world. Is American reality now a gun by the bedside camouflaged and armed White supremacist in the bushes? Now add the broad brushed FBI connection which seems (with a dog whistle MSM) more than willing to infiltrate and fund/create nut case terrorist events du jour. Recent reporting on the now question marked J/6 pipe bomb kerfuffle is a case in point.
If trust is a core factor in the creation of a healthy human reality it appears that it is the psyop's job to leave Americans ungrounded and forever twisting in emotional space. "Everything means everything so nothing means anything." Again: Crisis to crisis no solutions allowed. A healthy truth/fact based American national dialogue should include solutions. That is the core promise of subscription journalism. It is evolving and we need to evolve with it.
Here it is again: This is a new age and it is demanding an awakened realigned consciousness and a re-centered truth/fact based human reality. The fight is over who will control the new future. The fascist grift is to sow hatred, division and confusion. There is no left/right, Black/White, capitalist/communist. There is "we the people", the Republic, the Constitution. Step away from the rot and heal.
Gay Pride is left-wing extremist? Some elements may be but certainly not everyone unless you consider being gay itself extremist and "unnatural" etc etc
I would guess that there are more left-wing extremists involved with Gay Pride than neo-Nazis. Many gay people have distanced themselves from Pride because of what it has become.
I'm a gay man who wants nothing to do with pride and especially TQ+, since I find gender ideology sexist and homophobic. Also, the number of TQ+ people who self-identify as communist is exceedingly alarming.
Pride became extremist when it started adding letters after B and putting its propaganda in elementary schools. When it became hateful to question why grown men in womanface needed an audience of little children.
If you think that Pride is still about the freedom to love consenting adults of the same sex, you haven't been paying attention.
Gay Pride is a well established, main stream organization but is sometimes confused, to its embarrassment, with the Trans movement. Many gays seem to be quietly distancing themselves from the Trans and Pedo movements. I think they are disturbed by how the extremes seem to have hijacked the Gay Pride name. I would refer you to Douglas Murray and others on that topic. I don't think we can argue that the Trans movement hides a number of extremists. In fact the Trans movement seems to be a breeding ground for shootings, based upon what we've seen over the last year or so. I would say they've shot more people than the fictional neo-Nazis portrayed in the article. On the Pedo front, there seems to be a disturbing amount of evidence that shows an organized effort to traffic children around the world. I can only assume the worst about the purpose of the trafficking.
Why was this brave soldier discharged dishonorably stripped of his rank and GI benefits after a serious suicide attempt for severe PTSD? Am I missing something or is this the treatment PTSD(the original and real reason this term was coined) sufferers receive? He was only 4 months shy of complete Ins his active duty.. Can this be right or is part of his story omitted from this essay?
Something is being omitted from this part of the story. They don't dishonorably discharge someone for having PTSD or for making a suicide attempt, they would give him a medical honorable discharge and they'd provide him with treatment. There's something else that happened that probably isn't too flattering.
I wonder if Bari os reading the comments sections. She has been busy traveling to do interviews thinking Wiseman has the print covered.Time to pay attention to what is being published in her name
Faith Ham commented (above), questioning his ability to get a gun permit, after a very serious mental health issue and a "less than honorable discharge".
This former soldier also graduated from Columbia University in Y2020. What was his degree, and what impact was that education on his current employment. Seemed to me the volume on MSM ‘Nazi’ rhetoric went way up during Trump 1st term, which was when Mr. Goldsmith was being educated inside the Ivy’s most Left leaning institutions of higher learning. Maybe it had no impact. But makes one wonder.
Veterans are often treated horribly by our government. This doesn't surprise me at all. Soldiers are a number, at best. He was "4 months shy" and couldn't go back, so they cut him loose like a cancerous limb.
With all due respect Sue, there is a lot of supposition there. The military is extremely rules driven; especially releases. Is the military perfect? No, but it aims to be. I would suggest there is more than meets the eye here. One does not get an "other than honorable" release without cause.
"An OTH is given when there is misconduct that could be considered a misdemeanor in the civilian world. These could include incidents such as drug use, fighting, abuse of position or disobeying an order."
I would suspect by his story that it was substance abuse that got him released but suspect there were additional issues at play like missing his flight back to Iraq.
Yeah an OTH solely for a suicide attempt, when suicide was already an extremely sensitive issue for the DoD, seems highly unlikely, and if that was the case I'd expect it to have been reversed with a fair bit of publicity by now.
Kristofer Goldsmith sounds as cray-cray as those he’s hunting, and account sounds as if Goldsmith and Volodzko have written the screenplay for Netflix or Prime’s next Reacher-esque series. Seriously, how does this dude put food on the table, let alone support a growing team of Nazi hunters? The fit of someone’s cargo pants and pink sneakers are enough to condemn? This man, with his serious, documented psychological issues, most grievous being a dishonorable discharge, passed a background check for his pump-action rifle? And if he wants to save America, why not infiltrate the gangs and budding cartels murdering our citizens by the hundreds EVERY DAY. Something doesn’t add up. Either this really is a made-for-tv movie pitch, or, as some of you have astutely observed, this is our Deep State exposed.
If the fbi is truly concerned about domestic violence, this guy is definitely someone they should be keeping an eye upon. Unless he’s one of those paid informants we keep hearing about.
Lee, I did a little digging. The group Mr. Goldsmith served up to Massachusetts AG was NSC-131. Boston Globe estimated they had 30 to 40 members in 2023. NSC-131 sins are carrying 'Keep Boston Irish' signs during 2022 St. Patty's Day Parade, and then ramping up harassment/intimidation of Drag Queen Story Hours in 2022 and 2023. They might also have bothered Illegal Immigrants, and SPLC says they don't like Jews. They put up a 'Keep New England White' banner on an overpass without a permit. Goldsmith tips helped Mass AG charge NSC-131 leadership with civil rights violations (hate crimes) in Dec '23:
Southern Poverty Law Center profile on NSC-131 makes them look more sinister, but I didn't see any actual violence (besides a fist fight w/ Antifa) mentioned:
The hard right/white power group being prosecuted by Mass AG (related to Mr. Goldsmith work) are for civil rights violations of Illegal Immigrants and LGBTQ+ Drag Queen Story Hours. TFP left this out of the story.
Relax, guys. This is not a real story. It was a junior high short story "thriller" contest. Wiseman just forgot to mention that this wasn't the winning entry.
Such stupid, pointless content is not something I ever expected from Bari's serious foray into real, honest journalism. Instead, I felt like I picked up a copy of The National Enquirer this morning rather than turning on my computer.
“My goal is to impose costs on these ** to take them off the field,” he tells me. “To get them locked up or so wrapped up in civil cases that their resources, their time, their energy, their money are exhausted …”
Why yes, yes it does. Excellent observation. Replace the word Nazi with Trump and wa-la! But Smith, James, Bragg, and Willis/Wade probably think those terms one and the same. The rules don’t apply to you if you’re a “good guy” dontcha know? By any means necessary, take him “off the field.”
The writer states that "domestic extremists... include white nationalists, white supremacists, and neo-Nazis," but fails to mention the far greater threat posed by Marxist terrorists. The danger to America from neo-Nazis and their ilk is miniscule compared with the threat from Marxist organizations such as Antifa, which in the summer of 2020 unleashed a wave of murder, arson, looting, and mayhem the likes of which our nation has never before seen.
While I find the goal of eliminating Nazi ideology commendable, this behavior has a strong whiff of Stasi to me. I worry that the label " Nazi" seems to have been liberally applied and could come to cover anyone out of lockstep with the security state. (Remember the " brown face of white supremacy" gymnastics)
I guess in general I oppose American citizens engaging in espionage of Americans even if Kristopher and I share a similar vision of what an ideal liberal society would look like.
There's a lot about current events that make your "stasi" comment spot on! And after the recent hijinks with Google's AI product, Gemini, I fear that the security state is becoming quite big! I often read with dismay about how younger people, in particular, have strayed from the "freedom" concept - particularly freedom of speech and freedom of religion. I'm 67 and fear what the world will be like when I'm really, really old. My own daughter was with me one day when I stopped at a gas station in a heavily black neighborhood, fearing that I wouldn't even have enough fuel to pull up to the pup. The youngish black man in front of me was sitting in his car - not going into the convenience mart or pumping gas, or even struggling with his credit card. Just sitting. Maybe he was noodling on his phone. After 10 minutes I became impatient and, this being a hot summer day, all my windows were rolled down. I said loudly to my daughter, hoping the guy might hear me: "Gee, if this guy isn't going to buy gas he should move his car away from the pump!" The guy tore out of his car and came up to my window to berate my "white ass," or some such derogatory remark; I shut all my windows. Fortunately, he then drove away. My daughter, the product of Connecticut public schools and a STEM college education proceeded to criticize MY behavior, with all kinds of idiotic woke stuff about oppression and race. It was as if this man's permanent victimhood as a black gave him a pass to go through life behaving badly. No, I don't think so.
Just great! an extremist to fight extremists! What could possibly go wrong with THIS? If they were fighting illegal immigration crime then they would be called "racists". If they were fighting left-wing wackos they would be called "Right-wing, radical, MAGA extremists"! But Nazi hunters? HEROES!
Mehhh....Of all the threats and problems facing the country, neo-nazis do not crack top 200.
I'm thankful that someone competent is working on problem #201.
They did cite some cases. I'm sure you can think of more.
I'm glad he's doing it.
I wish there were an equivalent effort against the leftist terrorists.
That’s what would be much more helpful
So grateful for your comment.
No, no, no. It depends on your perspective. Viewed from the left, Nazi extremist actions are the gift that keeps on giving. High profile right-wing violence gathers a lot of attention in the Mainstream Media, allowing the leftwing commentators to say, "see how dangerous conservative ideas are. They need to be suppressed." It becomes easy for the Media to label reasonable conservative statements as a dog whistle for racist or fascist sympathies.
As a consequence, viewed from the right, the Nazi extremist actions are extremely counterproductive to the promotion of conservative ideas. Conservatives should be hugely thankful that these individuals are working to dismantle these groups, however small in the number they are.
No we're not hugely thankful because this just tries to shine a spotlight on a problem that exists only in the febrile nightmares of the lunatic left and the demented geezer whom they installed as our Dear Leader. And Bari's allowing this garbage to be printed - when there are real problems to address - is concerning.
It's not garbage, Bruce. This man and his group are not diverting resources from other problems--they're working their own part of the street. They identified a problem that concerns them--Nazis in America--they are tackling it one skinhead at a time. These efforts have handed prosecutors significant information they've used to put Nazis in jail--at no cost to taxpayers.
The Atomwaffen viruses might be small change relative to other crime in this country, but it's not zero, either. I applaud the sergeant and his team for making our nation just a little bit safer than it was before they came along.
You're entitled to your opinion, Shane, but in the great scheme of things we have a lot more to worry about than a handful of freaks. Especially when the Imbecile in Chief has opened our borders to a real threat and seems to agree with this nut that white nationalists are the problem.
Again, Bruce, why do you care what this guy does about Nazis when he's not asking for your money or help? If he and his team take a dozen assholes off the board every year, that's a dozen fewer assholes causing trouble for honest Americans. Why call him a nut and loser when he's performing a public service that doesn't cost you one thin dime?
I admire the guy for putting his money where his mouth is. He was troubled, drunk, and suicidal, but he also hunted our enemies in Afghanistan, he turned his life around, and now he's helping all of us in his little way. I will not shit in his Wheaties for wanting to do that.
I don't care what he does. I do care that the almost non-existent threat of American nazis or white supremacists is given traction. It's a ADL canard, amplified by the FBI and screeched by the Senile Imbecile in the Oval Office. Meanwhile we have real threats - the open border being the most significant - that are being ignored. Worse they are being pushed.
I also find his tale highly doubtful and suspicious but that's a different matter.
Fine, and mostly quite reasonable, but there is one small problem which is that the nation's attention is conserved -- we can only spend so much time worrying about things and it is best if we worry in proportion to the actual threat. In practice Nazis are a minuscule problem. Drug crime is 10,000X greater threat to society.
Sure, what he is doing is admirable, however it feels like there are many more raging lunatics on the left like antifa - he could be so much more productive!
I agree. Interestingly in the comments, neo nazi organizations, white supremacists, it's like yeah - no big deal. No story here. But if the guy was going after antifa or BLM rioters in his quixotic way - I think you would have heard cheers up and down this thread..
These are not mutually exclusive issues. The unchecked illegal immigration is a real and pressing problem, but the nazis (in all their flavors) do kill people and a couple decades ago did have a bombing campaign. Both are problems and I'm thankful for these vets that are doing what they can.
"[A] couple decades ago."
And we need lectures from people such as you about relevance?
Good comment. I think the far left is a bigger problem for this country but I'm for rooting out any form of extremism and the posters to this article should be too. No need to play "whataboutism" games. Nazism is a great evil.
My concern is that, by revealing this guy's identity and methods, he's just been made far less able to do his job.
He posed for the pictures, for Pete’s sake!
If the skinheads do video interviews, which it sounds like they might...
Then again he says they're a bunch of dummies, which cuts a bit against the notion that they're an urgent insidious threat requiring mercenary intel skullduggery to stop.
Agreed. It is kind of a tell; covert operatives NEVER reveal themselves for a variety of reasons.
Or maybe it's really just a huge con and fantasy?
I don't think he cares. They already know where he lives.
Exactly.... He's not exactly anonymous looking.... Dude just burned himself. He's made himself radioactive in person.
Most of his job is done online. Pictures don't matter.
Well not the sexy assassination part that he’s trying so o done out on. Just a loser.
Cancel culture here? Isn't it all about hearing what's going on so we can logically discuss and debate rather than referring to stories and perspectives we don't like as "garbage?"
Oh, FFS. You do not understand what Cancel Culture is. No one is stopping Bari Weiss from publishing whatever she wants. Do you think commenters here have that power?
People are commenting that this guy sounds like a sociopathic loser. A couple of nightmares from doing stupid shit.
No, it isn't cancel culture, it is commentary.
Sue, what do you think is the motivation for Mr. Goldsmith to 'tell his story' again to TFP? He's told it before in Rolling Stone magazine, 1-year ago, Feb '23.
I currently fall on side of this story is red meat, but I'm willing to have my mind changed.
I come at this under the premise that US citizens have a right to say whatever you want in this country, even if I don't like it. And that includes Left-wing nuts at UC Berkely bullhorn yelling "Intifada" at Jewish students the other day (w/ those students having to escape by tunnels). And it also includes the 'Nationalist Socialist Club-131' aka NSC-131 bringing signs to Beantown St. Patty's parade in 2021 stating 'Keep Boston Irish' or NSC-131 or protesting outside Drag Queen Story Hours in 2022 and 2023:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationalist_Social_Club-131
NSC-131 is the group that Mr. Goldsmith dropped 'breadcrumbs' to the Massachusetts AG to bring charges against them. But all the charges appear to be for words and demonstrations, and not actual violence. Bad words against LGBTQ+, Illegal Immigrants (civil rights violations, harassment/intimidation)
https://apnews.com/article/massachusetts-hate-group-lawsuit-drag-shows-nsc131-e797c249184eb2693f19f2afb6c001e6
Below is the Southern Poverty Law Center's profile on the NSC-131 that Goldsmith's 'Project Husky' investigated. They are more critical, but I'd say they in-part stay in business by doing so.
https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/group/nationalist-social-club-nsc-131
It looks like NSC-131 was founded in 2019 and now has 30 to 40 members.
They don't sound like great guys (at all), but I'd say they do have the 1st Amendment right to make jackasses of themselves, as long as they are non-violent, which they appear to be. The only 'violence' I can find about NSC-131 from SPLC report is founders of NSC-131 being involved in kiddie-porn (where have I heard that before) and NSC-131 self-claiming they were at J6.
SPLC isn't a fair-and-balanced arbitrator any longer, which is very unfortunate. They really lost the plot when they refused to profile Antifa in any way in wake of George Floyd death and what looked like Antifa led burning/looting of several Metro areas across the country. The headlines at SPLC at this time (2020) were: "DESIGNATING ANTIFA AS DOMESTIC TERRORIST ORGANIZATION IS DANGEROUS, THREATENS CIVIL LIBERTIES"
/SPLC is a gaggle of loser leftists. They are like the ADL - nearly anything they claim is politically biased BS>
I agree, on SPLC. I shared because even this org couldn’t show the group in question (however vile) had not engaged in violence.
Appreciate your comments.
Of course there's cancel culture here, Sue. Welcome to the comment section of FP. 'Debate and discuss'? Try that with people with narratives already baked in their heads..
Disappointing. I enjoy the Free Press, and hope the Cancel Comments here don't deter the Free Reporting. Hate baked narratives...
No minds will change here. And very few are willing to listen to an alternative point of view.
What's going on? Now that's funny.
Nothing adds up? If I was in fear of my life I wouldn’t be posing for pictures.
I think we all should be thankfull to these vets. All of us, left, right, and in between. The new nazis might not have the numbers, but I'm old enough to remeber the Oklahoma bombing, and they didn't have numbers than.
Well-stated.
Well said. Completely agree.
Hitler started in a coffee house….
And only succeeded because Weimar was so incompetent and destructive. Like the Democrats who run America today. Wake up.
Reichstag fire, Covid, etc. Crisis created to gobble up freedom and carry out initiatives.
PP, if you don’t discern the Fascist DNA in the Left, or sense that they NEED Trump and White Supremacist to creep up on the Walls of Troy, you may be sitting in that coffee shop.
They literally control the media, censorship, academia, teachers unions. Trump is toothless by comparison.
Strong disagree. In the minds of the American public, wavering between the GOP and the Democrats, one neo-Nazi outweighs 100 antifa when it comes to choosing a political "identity." Anything that stinks on the right is immediately attributed to "conservatives," whereas nothing that stinks on the left is ever attributed to progressives. A permanent "progressive" majority is the biggest problem facing the country and the far right is helping to make that happen.
Maybe you're right but then you're probably wrong. In the grand scheme of things, and if what is reported in this article is accurate, then I think he's doing the right thing.
This is his issue, Based. If it's not your issue, that's fine, but he's not asking you to help. No need to be so dismissive of his efforts.
Curious about what magic number makes sense to you before you (or anyone) spring into action...
Between 2013 and 2022, 444 people were killed by domestic extremists, which include white nationalists, white supremacists, and neo-Nazis. (Though Goldberg understands the distinctions, he casually uses the term “Nazi” in conversations to refer to all pro-white terrorist groups.)
Not minimizing their contribution to tragedy and real human suffering but is that contribution not significant enough to stand on its own?
If the top domestic terror threat is, (as characterized by the FBI and other law enforcement agencies) white supremacists why the more inclusive stat?
50 black people are shot and killed by other black people in Chicago every month and nobody says a word or does a thing.
You just said a word. Did it change anything? Do you dedicate your life to making things better for "black chicagoans?"
What is your point? You seem to imply something but actually aren't saying anything. What are you implying?
The observation seems to be a fair one and not of a malicious nature
Perhaps you don't fit any of the categories they spend their lives fixating on and planning to kill. For those of us in their sights; it's not a comfortable feeling. And the article did say they work together with Jihadists, since they share a passion for Jew hate above all else
Except when you come face to face with one. Been there and it's lots of fun!
Threats are threats.
I guess the deaths of the black people killed by them don't matter. do they Mehh.
Which black people? Most of the young black people that are killed, are killed by other black people. This isn't the 50's anymore.
The belief that whites are killing blacks in the US is simply not true. Statistically it is the other way around. The rare case where a white person kills a black, even in self defense, is highly publicized but the reverse is ignored. Whatever happened to the black guy a few years ago in Wisconsin who intentionally drove his car through a Christmas parade route? How about the killings of Asian in NYC by blacks? Heather MacDonald has done a great job looking at the statistics of people killed by police nationwide. The concept that the cops are mass murdering blacks is demonstrably false. I will tell you right now that it's more dangerous for a white or asian to walk through a black urban neighborhood than the reverse would be.
The greatest danger blacks face is each other, not whites. Until we recognize that, nothing improves in the black community. I am with Malcolm X when he stated that the greatest danger the black community (Negro community in his words) faces is the white liberal.
As far as I'm aware, in the last 10 years or so there have been 3 anti-black terror attacks (in Charleston, Buffalo, and Jax). More quotidian interracial murder is not super common either, though there's more black on white than the reverse. So racist whities going after black people isn't a non-issue, but for some to treat it like it's THE issue is so out of proportion that an ulterior motive seems almost certain.
Care to list the names of the black people this group killed?
Doris, you are speaking from complete ignorance. The outfit (NSC-131) Mr. Goldsmith investigated and served up to Massachusetts AG didn't kill anyone. That's why they are being charged with civil rights violations.
The groups NSC-131 is being charged with harassing and intimidating by the Massachusetts AG are Illegal Immigrants and LGBTQ+ groups. The AG also doesn't like that NSC-131 was protesting outside Drag Queen Story Hours. NSC-131 also do not like Jews, but that does not appear to be their primary target. When I say 'they', I'm citing the Boston Globe who in 2023 put NSC-131 membership at 30-40 persons.
Thanks for this clarification, Matt. Much appreciated.
Here is all you need to know-from the article…….
“Between 2013 and 2022, 444 people were killed by domestic extremists, which include white nationalists, white supremacists, and neo-Nazis. “
So this brave publicity seeker, who is merely giving the press exactly what they want to hear, has found that about 40 people a year have been killed by “domestic extremists”. And some unknown percentage of them are in some way tied to boogey man white people, who of course are the problem.
That’s about the body count in Chicago in a month or two.
Nice try.
And if you go to his website you’ll see that there is no organized effort to do anything about the “fascists” he claims to be fighting. No meetups. Nowhere for veterans like myself to ACTUALLY sign up beyond joining their email list. There IS however a handy “donate” button and some super sweet merch in case you want to support his quest to crush “fAsCiSm” (which in 2024 includes anyone to the right of AOC). It’s a grift. I can’t knock the hustle. If he found a way to milk money from the most insufferable white guilt stricken people among us good for him. but that’s all it is… I’ve never met a Neo Nazi. Granted I haven’t looked for them. But it seems like if they were that big of an issue we’d see them from time to time. I’m not saying they don’t exist but the small handful of them that do are where they belong… on the fringes of society being mocked and ridiculed.
I was in the army for 42 years and during those decades, only came across ONE Nazi who was drummed out fairly quickly.
Bingo I always joke with a buddy of mine about the boogie man of the “white supremacist“ as someone else said it’s the gift that keeps on giving.
People bring it up as some huge problem and I laugh and basically say “Yep it’s like 14 dudes in the basement and some small Alabama town. They have no power. They have no influence “
Yet we are consistently told by large segments of the left that it is the biggest problem in America
In the Gretchen Whitmer plot, which was supposed to be their magnum opus, the feds supplied about half the manpower and all of the brainpower.
Thank you for your service.
Thank you Shirley :)
42 year 0-5? Yikes
No, started as a high school drop out private and worked my way up to LCol. Canadian system is a bit different than the US.
Im messing with ya sir. I looked you up. You’re the real deal. Much respect 🫡
What the hell is going on up there sir?
Suffering a 'woke progressive' government hell bent on social engineering. There's not a day goes by where the press is going nuts. Recent examples: The Feds refusing to finance roads over 75 kms, discussion about banning wood burning ovens for bagels and pizzas, to the more serious allowing the quasi-judicial Human Rights Commission to charge and prosecute hate speech, hate crimes, and incitement with up to life in prison; a sentence typically reserved for serial killers. Insanity! Not surprising Trudeau has the worst numbers in Canadian history. He'll be gone in 2025.
He makes a big show of fighting fascism (in fairness at least some of his targets actually are, by what used to be the universally accepted definition), and evidently was also the first ever guest on Stormy Daniels' podcast. I think most TFP readers are savvy enough to see what's up.
He got kicked out of the Military for being and emotionally unstable lunatic. The dude is a joke.
Why an I blocked from liking this comment?
The group that Mr. Goldsmith provided 'breadcrumbs' to Massachusetts AG to charge with civil rights violations is NSC-131. The Boston Globe estimated in 2023 they had 30 to 40 members (based in New England). They (NSC-131) are being charged with harassing/intimidating Illegal Immigrants and LGBTQ+ at Drag Queen Story Hours. I've no doubt they are hard-right White Power nutcases. But I don't think they are a massive danger to inflict bodily harm. They were founded in 2019 and self-proclaimed they were at J6. Who knows is the J6 claims is in part, what brought them this attention.
Oh and theyre fighting the fascists that are being mean to the illegals that broke our laws to get here and are making every city in the country less safe while we pay for it? He’s truly doing gods work.
So this dude is out here trying to defend drag queens right to dress up like freaks and read stories to kids from the big mean maga fascists? Cool. Where can I donate?
And all this conveniently left out of TFP published story...
Probably bc it becomes impossible for normal people to do anything but mock him when they realize his version of fighting Nazis is actually him out here defending weirdos that want to sexualize kids.
Note the source. ADL.
More leftist lies and agitprop.
I guess Wiseman decided to run with this bit of news as well
Given all the issues and problems we currently face, I really question the motivation for running this piece in the first place. Is it to help bolster the current administration's irrational fear mongering about "MAGA Republicans"?
As soon as I saw the headline and read the intro; this is exactly where my mind went. Let’s amplify a tiny group of freaks to encourage half of the population to continue to hate the other half. (Years ago my dad told me the difference between comservatives and liberals - conservatives think liberals are wrong and misguided. Liberals think conservatives are evil. That has only gotten worse - although I pretty much think the progressives - who aren’t at all liberal - are the truly evil ones.)
Wikipedia says Patriot Front has about 200 members. I think I could find fan groups for obscure Sci-fi movies that number larger than that.
And they all have AR15's. A much different audience than your average obscure sci-fi indy film.
Sure, but obscure Sci-fi movie fans don't advocate hurting or killing people based on racial ideology. 50 armed folks who decide it's time for a war can do much more damage than 100s of people sending strongly worded emails and marching with colorful signs. The violence is why the cops spend so many resources hunting for a serial killer which is fairly rare, rather than nailing all the careless drivers who speed and drive unsafely and cause a much larger overall casualty count that one person. The drivers are not intentionally killing or hurting people, but the serial killer is.
Ha. Bingo. one of my life missions right now is to reclaim the word “liberal” I correct people all the time when they refer to leftist progressives as liberals.
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That always seems to be O Wiseman’s objective-which is why I loathe seeing his name appear again and again. It is the not so subtle slant of elite superiority (not).
Also , yes, I think you are correct in it is to bolster the fear mongering.
It's just another distraction from the real problem at our border and the potentially dangerous people pouring in every day.
At least in Chicago it is Black people killing Black people! How can you fight THAT without being called a racist?
What are you talking about bro? Jussie Smollet told us that Chicago was maga country.
And he had the MAGA supporters to prove it. They came all the way from Nigeria.
Those Nigerian white supremacists are the worst!!
Better get Kristofer & the ADL on to it.
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lol
You will be called a racist for even point out the facts. They do everything to obfuscate the truth.
This article reads like a urban leftist's fantasy that the rest of the country is overrun by conservative, Trump-supporters who are all Nazis. The Biden Administration pushes the 'Nazis in America are the real threat' angle to distract from the millions of illegals pouring over our border ever year.
The group Mr. Goldsmith served up to Massachusetts AG is NSC-131. They are being charged with civil rights violations for harassing and intimidating Illegal Immigrants and LGBTQ+ (protesting at Drag Queen Story Hours). NSC-131 are a White Power organization of '30 to 40' members -- but they don't appear to be killers. They look to instead be guilty of saying the wrong words to the wrong groups.
https://apnews.com/article/massachusetts-hate-group-lawsuit-drag-shows-nsc131-e797c249184eb2693f19f2afb6c001e6
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationalist_Social_Club-131
TFP story did not cover this, which is poor journalism, IMHO.
This exact line struck me too. That, and conspiracy theorists who claim stolen elections are all white supremacists or white nationalists.
I’m just wondering what to call them if their names are Hilary Clinton or Stacy Abrams. Savers of democracy? Freedom fighters? Rational human beings? Ooh no I bet it’s antiracists.
Just trying to close the loop.
I want more data about that number.
Data. There is no real data anymore. There is a choice of data. My guess is that somewhere there is a datapoint that the person mentioned pulled to validate his importance.
There is no ability to interpret data. The reporter did not say “Sir, you are talking about an unknown percentage of 3 people a month being the victim of neo nazis in a country of over 300,000,000 people. Sir, why is this a crisis that warrants our attention?”.
Anyone without an agenda and with common sense would ask that question.
Hence, this publication is no longer called, “Common Sense.”
There were some examples given, so if we're talking about only 44 people a year, surely the details must be available. Were these murders actually committed for ideological reasons? Or is domestic violence by assholes who happen to identify as neo-Nazi being rolled into that number? Where did these murders occur? If it was in prison, I'm guessing there are probably more than 44 murders per year committed in prison by members of black and Hispanic gangs.
The article states that he is not targeting people who commit crimes or kill people. He and his group are filing civil charges with the intent to de-fund/bankrupt them.
Now, where have I heard that plan before..... hmmmmm?
Thought: If there are any civil charges filed by him or his org, they would be publicly filed. A quick google search should find them. Can you charge someone for being a racist? Unlikely, hate crimes if applicable, but that's a criminal matter not a civil one. (According to the DOJ).
Mr. Goldsmith provided his evidence to the Massachusetts AG against the group 'NSC-131'. They first came to attention when they showed up at Boston St. Patrick's Day parade with 'Keep Boston Irish' signs in 2021. The civil rights violation charges filed in Dec '23 are being brought by the AG, for intimidation of Illegal Immigrants and for protesting Drag Queen Story Hours:
https://apnews.com/article/massachusetts-hate-group-lawsuit-drag-shows-nsc131-e797c249184eb2693f19f2afb6c001e6
Data: "Today homicide is the leading cause of death among young Black men, and contributes significantly to the shortened life-span of the Black male. In about 80-90% of the cases, the Black victim was killed by another Black, and about 52% of the murder victims were acquainted with their assailant." (US DOJ) or... 89% (FBI - 2016).
Exactly. A leftist with a firearm. No leftist should be permitted firearms by reason of insanity.
I guess you think it ain't a big deal, Philly. That's ok, of course.
Let's change the narrative slightly. If an antifa organization(s) (perhaps mixed in with some deluded 22 yr old college white students) started targeting Jews since 2013 and especially now since Oct 7 because they're anti Zionists and despise Israel, killing 444 people in eleven years, would you applaud this 'brave publicity seeker'? It still wouldn't be more than Chicago's body count, but would it be more justifiable for you then?
Well first off we don’t know that 444 people have been killed by NeoNazis. We are told that a percentage of them supposedly have been killed by NeoNazis. This fellow seems focused on the NeoNazis element. Could be 300 people, 200 people or 20 people. We also don’t know where the 444 number comes from.
More importantly, it seems hyped up to me. There seems to be a larger attempt to create a White Aryan danger when I don’t see one. This falls in with that myth and reinforces it. Are there White Aryans? I guess. Is there a huge movement? No. For gosh sake’s illegal immigrants have probably killed more than 400 people in the last 3 years and if we had someone like him tracking illegal immigrants he would be called a vigilante and locked up.
To me the article attempts to create a false equivalence between the danger of an organized white power movement and Antifa. There is no equivalence. Antifa has done more damage and killed and raped more in the last few years than white nationalists in the last few decades.
It also seems phony. Someone in that much danger is not that public. But maybe that my innate cynicism.
I think this is real. He's not a phony. Though somewhat self aggrandizing. I understand your point. But my point is that as I read through the comments, of which 90% deride him, the thrust of the article, and Bari for that matter - I get the feeling that because his campaign is against whites (let's face it..white supremacy) he is dismissed by people here. I apologize if I came across a little strong..
There is certainly no apology necessary. I think people are just sensitive to the different media treatment for left and right leaning causes
True enough.
Lee i don't think you come across as too strong. You come across as wrong. The people here are saying 440 or so murders in 10 years is an insignificant number compared to the number of murders in major cities. Also
we have many more important
problems to be concerned
with as Mr Yuvi says
And my reply to you as with others here is that even though the number is insignificant- if that same number was applied to antifa killings over that same period, and this guy was going after them, I think there would be a different response here.
I think, based on video evidence from the summer of 2020, we can conclude that there are vastly more Antifa people PER MAJOR CITY than there are neo-Nazis in the entire U.S.
I get the impression that you don't think that's a big deal.
I do. Though I don't know of how many people of another race they've killed.
You do..."don't think that's a big deal"? Or you do think that's a big deal?
Are you seriously suggesting that it matters WHAT the race of a person who is murdered is? That it's okay for white Leftist Antifa to kill white people?
I guess if you only worry about murders that cross racial boundaries, that's a really simple way of ignoring the stats on who kills the vast majority of black men.
It’s even worse than that. 444 isn’t the amount that Neo-Nazis killed, it only includes those killed by white supremacists. So, ostensibly, a high percentage of those killed may have been killed by left wing extremist groups.
Now this is truly funny. We're told we're supposed to worry about a handful of nuts and losers supposedly trying to resurrect the Third Reich when we have a corrupt imbecile as president who has thrown open our borders, priced groceries out of reach for many Americans, is destroying our energy grid and igniting racial tension. Not to mention fomenting conflict abroad. Please get your head out of your ass and get serious. We're not paying for stupidity such as this.
Is there a word for someone who obsessively investigates and targets people based on their race? What if he has also established working relationships with the Feds to prosecute people but only of a particular race? Would they have fawning articles about them in the media or would they be loudly decried as racists? Also curious about all vast network of white supremacists who attacked and set afire our major cities in summer 2020. Is this Rambo investigating them as well?
Amen, brother. I am seriously beginning to question my subscription. I thought the FP was supposed to be better. Maybe the apple doesn't fall that far from the poisoned NYT tree after all?
Free is the operative word here...Not what Drewbacca always likes.
Ummm…not free. I pay for this and choose to do so because of the promise of actual balanced journalism. This piece is anything but.
Silo much?
Ummm…clearly not, as I am a paid subscriber here. Come up with something slightly more intelligent next time, please.
Sorry you were exposed to something outside your comfort bubble.
Sorry you believe this madness. A few nuts celebrating Hitler's birthday is not a worry. An open border with close to 10 million pouring in with no end in sight is a big worry. Law enforcement can handle the few clowns who act out Nazi fantasies. But when we have a government that encourages and abets an illegal invasion we are in big trouble.
Sorry you feel that way, but why does the open border mean that nobody should be fighting against neo-Nazism on the right? Sounds to me like an excuse to avoid the issue.
I think you missed my comment you just replied to. I asked you to come up with something intelligent.
They want us to think that every white, conservative, Trump-supporter in America is potentially just as dangerous as the thousands of illegals that pour across our border ever day.
It certainly seems like a "red meat" morning to me. Nazi hunters coupled with a leftist AI rewriting history and erasing White people from the world. Is American reality now a gun by the bedside camouflaged and armed White supremacist in the bushes? Now add the broad brushed FBI connection which seems (with a dog whistle MSM) more than willing to infiltrate and fund/create nut case terrorist events du jour. Recent reporting on the now question marked J/6 pipe bomb kerfuffle is a case in point.
If trust is a core factor in the creation of a healthy human reality it appears that it is the psyop's job to leave Americans ungrounded and forever twisting in emotional space. "Everything means everything so nothing means anything." Again: Crisis to crisis no solutions allowed. A healthy truth/fact based American national dialogue should include solutions. That is the core promise of subscription journalism. It is evolving and we need to evolve with it.
Here it is again: This is a new age and it is demanding an awakened realigned consciousness and a re-centered truth/fact based human reality. The fight is over who will control the new future. The fascist grift is to sow hatred, division and confusion. There is no left/right, Black/White, capitalist/communist. There is "we the people", the Republic, the Constitution. Step away from the rot and heal.
I was impressed until he mentioned Antifa and Pride events. By all means, take out the Nazis, but not by siding with left-wing extremists.
Gay Pride is left-wing extremist? Some elements may be but certainly not everyone unless you consider being gay itself extremist and "unnatural" etc etc
I would guess that there are more left-wing extremists involved with Gay Pride than neo-Nazis. Many gay people have distanced themselves from Pride because of what it has become.
I'm a gay man who wants nothing to do with pride and especially TQ+, since I find gender ideology sexist and homophobic. Also, the number of TQ+ people who self-identify as communist is exceedingly alarming.
You are correct!
Pride became extremist when it started adding letters after B and putting its propaganda in elementary schools. When it became hateful to question why grown men in womanface needed an audience of little children.
If you think that Pride is still about the freedom to love consenting adults of the same sex, you haven't been paying attention.
Gay Pride is a well established, main stream organization but is sometimes confused, to its embarrassment, with the Trans movement. Many gays seem to be quietly distancing themselves from the Trans and Pedo movements. I think they are disturbed by how the extremes seem to have hijacked the Gay Pride name. I would refer you to Douglas Murray and others on that topic. I don't think we can argue that the Trans movement hides a number of extremists. In fact the Trans movement seems to be a breeding ground for shootings, based upon what we've seen over the last year or so. I would say they've shot more people than the fictional neo-Nazis portrayed in the article. On the Pedo front, there seems to be a disturbing amount of evidence that shows an organized effort to traffic children around the world. I can only assume the worst about the purpose of the trafficking.
I'm guessing the pedos are having a field day at the border.
Why was this brave soldier discharged dishonorably stripped of his rank and GI benefits after a serious suicide attempt for severe PTSD? Am I missing something or is this the treatment PTSD(the original and real reason this term was coined) sufferers receive? He was only 4 months shy of complete Ins his active duty.. Can this be right or is part of his story omitted from this essay?
Something is being omitted from this part of the story. They don't dishonorably discharge someone for having PTSD or for making a suicide attempt, they would give him a medical honorable discharge and they'd provide him with treatment. There's something else that happened that probably isn't too flattering.
Do we smell a rodent here? A large one, perhaps?
I wonder if Bari os reading the comments sections. She has been busy traveling to do interviews thinking Wiseman has the print covered.Time to pay attention to what is being published in her name
What am I missing here?
That he's a delusional nut, perchance?
Faith Ham commented (above), questioning his ability to get a gun permit, after a very serious mental health issue and a "less than honorable discharge".
This former soldier also graduated from Columbia University in Y2020. What was his degree, and what impact was that education on his current employment. Seemed to me the volume on MSM ‘Nazi’ rhetoric went way up during Trump 1st term, which was when Mr. Goldsmith was being educated inside the Ivy’s most Left leaning institutions of higher learning. Maybe it had no impact. But makes one wonder.
Veterans are often treated horribly by our government. This doesn't surprise me at all. Soldiers are a number, at best. He was "4 months shy" and couldn't go back, so they cut him loose like a cancerous limb.
With all due respect Sue, there is a lot of supposition there. The military is extremely rules driven; especially releases. Is the military perfect? No, but it aims to be. I would suggest there is more than meets the eye here. One does not get an "other than honorable" release without cause.
"An OTH is given when there is misconduct that could be considered a misdemeanor in the civilian world. These could include incidents such as drug use, fighting, abuse of position or disobeying an order."
I would suspect by his story that it was substance abuse that got him released but suspect there were additional issues at play like missing his flight back to Iraq.
Yeah an OTH solely for a suicide attempt, when suicide was already an extremely sensitive issue for the DoD, seems highly unlikely, and if that was the case I'd expect it to have been reversed with a fair bit of publicity by now.
Kristofer Goldsmith sounds as cray-cray as those he’s hunting, and account sounds as if Goldsmith and Volodzko have written the screenplay for Netflix or Prime’s next Reacher-esque series. Seriously, how does this dude put food on the table, let alone support a growing team of Nazi hunters? The fit of someone’s cargo pants and pink sneakers are enough to condemn? This man, with his serious, documented psychological issues, most grievous being a dishonorable discharge, passed a background check for his pump-action rifle? And if he wants to save America, why not infiltrate the gangs and budding cartels murdering our citizens by the hundreds EVERY DAY. Something doesn’t add up. Either this really is a made-for-tv movie pitch, or, as some of you have astutely observed, this is our Deep State exposed.
If the fbi is truly concerned about domestic violence, this guy is definitely someone they should be keeping an eye upon. Unless he’s one of those paid informants we keep hearing about.
Uh oh, another conspiracy theory..
The Deep State has suddenly gone even Deeper..
Lee, I did a little digging. The group Mr. Goldsmith served up to Massachusetts AG was NSC-131. Boston Globe estimated they had 30 to 40 members in 2023. NSC-131 sins are carrying 'Keep Boston Irish' signs during 2022 St. Patty's Day Parade, and then ramping up harassment/intimidation of Drag Queen Story Hours in 2022 and 2023. They might also have bothered Illegal Immigrants, and SPLC says they don't like Jews. They put up a 'Keep New England White' banner on an overpass without a permit. Goldsmith tips helped Mass AG charge NSC-131 leadership with civil rights violations (hate crimes) in Dec '23:
https://apnews.com/article/massachusetts-hate-group-lawsuit-drag-shows-nsc131-e797c249184eb2693f19f2afb6c001e6
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationalist_Social_Club-131
Southern Poverty Law Center profile on NSC-131 makes them look more sinister, but I didn't see any actual violence (besides a fist fight w/ Antifa) mentioned:
https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/group/nationalist-social-club-nsc-131
So they’re like a white BLM but without the arson, looting corporate donations and murders. Got it.
Details do matter..
:)
Not sure the purpose of this story or how much is actually true.
This story reads like what an urban leftist thinks the rest of America is like.
People in Portland are afraid that ANTIFA will be re-activated at some convenient time in this election cycle. Can Goldsmith do anything about them?
Is The Free Press swinging hard Left? We seem to be getting more of these articles that don’t resemble real journalism.
Is it Hard Left to be anti Nazi? I would think even Trump would be against an Aryan white supremacy group. Right?
The hard right/white power group being prosecuted by Mass AG (related to Mr. Goldsmith work) are for civil rights violations of Illegal Immigrants and LGBTQ+ Drag Queen Story Hours. TFP left this out of the story.
They seem to try really hard to avoid reporting on any issues that could be considered 'right-wing'.
Relax, guys. This is not a real story. It was a junior high short story "thriller" contest. Wiseman just forgot to mention that this wasn't the winning entry.
Such stupid, pointless content is not something I ever expected from Bari's serious foray into real, honest journalism. Instead, I felt like I picked up a copy of The National Enquirer this morning rather than turning on my computer.
Dumb beyond dumb
“My goal is to impose costs on these ** to take them off the field,” he tells me. “To get them locked up or so wrapped up in civil cases that their resources, their time, their energy, their money are exhausted …”
Sound familiar?
Why yes, yes it does. Excellent observation. Replace the word Nazi with Trump and wa-la! But Smith, James, Bragg, and Willis/Wade probably think those terms one and the same. The rules don’t apply to you if you’re a “good guy” dontcha know? By any means necessary, take him “off the field.”
The writer states that "domestic extremists... include white nationalists, white supremacists, and neo-Nazis," but fails to mention the far greater threat posed by Marxist terrorists. The danger to America from neo-Nazis and their ilk is miniscule compared with the threat from Marxist organizations such as Antifa, which in the summer of 2020 unleashed a wave of murder, arson, looting, and mayhem the likes of which our nation has never before seen.
While I find the goal of eliminating Nazi ideology commendable, this behavior has a strong whiff of Stasi to me. I worry that the label " Nazi" seems to have been liberally applied and could come to cover anyone out of lockstep with the security state. (Remember the " brown face of white supremacy" gymnastics)
I guess in general I oppose American citizens engaging in espionage of Americans even if Kristopher and I share a similar vision of what an ideal liberal society would look like.
There's a lot about current events that make your "stasi" comment spot on! And after the recent hijinks with Google's AI product, Gemini, I fear that the security state is becoming quite big! I often read with dismay about how younger people, in particular, have strayed from the "freedom" concept - particularly freedom of speech and freedom of religion. I'm 67 and fear what the world will be like when I'm really, really old. My own daughter was with me one day when I stopped at a gas station in a heavily black neighborhood, fearing that I wouldn't even have enough fuel to pull up to the pup. The youngish black man in front of me was sitting in his car - not going into the convenience mart or pumping gas, or even struggling with his credit card. Just sitting. Maybe he was noodling on his phone. After 10 minutes I became impatient and, this being a hot summer day, all my windows were rolled down. I said loudly to my daughter, hoping the guy might hear me: "Gee, if this guy isn't going to buy gas he should move his car away from the pump!" The guy tore out of his car and came up to my window to berate my "white ass," or some such derogatory remark; I shut all my windows. Fortunately, he then drove away. My daughter, the product of Connecticut public schools and a STEM college education proceeded to criticize MY behavior, with all kinds of idiotic woke stuff about oppression and race. It was as if this man's permanent victimhood as a black gave him a pass to go through life behaving badly. No, I don't think so.
Well said!
Just great! an extremist to fight extremists! What could possibly go wrong with THIS? If they were fighting illegal immigration crime then they would be called "racists". If they were fighting left-wing wackos they would be called "Right-wing, radical, MAGA extremists"! But Nazi hunters? HEROES!
This is a joke. Please what waste of time and quite frankly an embarrassment. This should be a skit on SCTV
I went to the "extremism" website. The worst examples they can cite over a period of years have fewer casualties than an average weekend in Chicago.
Am I on MSNBC?
Is Bari channeling Maddow?
Somebody fell asleep in front of the TV again