Wait til the effects of additional testosterone in utero come out. There's a case of a "trans" man who got pregnant, and the baby is exhibiting serious signs of neurological disorder, something like catatonia.
Why on earth would Glamour put this on the cover of their magazine? Why live longer at this level of stupidity?
This is exactly what I have questioned. Many pregnant women won’t even drink coffee, let alone a glass of wine (heaven forbid!). Yet we are to celebrate pregnant transmen who must be on hormones throughout pregnancy to avoid reversal effects.
Matt Walsh’s movie, “What is a Woman?” is being shown for free this weekend on none other than Twitter. Very well done but so disgusting to see what medical professionals and academia have done to contribute to this messed up mindset. Science is nonexistent in their case. Elon even tweets that all parents must see it. This never would’ve happened pre-Elon.
Yes! No one could answer his questions logically! But of course nbc uses the word “anti-trans” in it’s headline relating to Musk. So glad they offered it for free viewing. It’s like preaching to the choir to only offer it to Daily Wire subscribers.
“But the dream was basically that I was trying to catch eggs that were being dropped from a roof three or four stories up. I had a padded basket, so as long as the egg would hit the basket, I was fine. But invariably the eggs would come down at too great a frequency, or I simply couldn’t get to them in time. Invariably, they would hit the ground.”
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This dream is so much more terrifying now that Joe Biden has made eggs cost $25.
And 81 million Americans have entrusted Biden to carry their $25/dozen eggs, he is doing a wonderful job of walking with all their eggs on his shoulders, but some mean MAGA went and put down sandbags in his path. 😬
At no point will I ‘change’ the eternal Democrat desire to attempt building the Tower of Babel for the 37,000th time.
I am only here so that, when they fail catastrophically, they are sufficiently burdened with the knowledge that the obnoxious guy from the internet was smarter than them.
My friend, Kim Witczak, would be a great follow up interview. She has worked for 19 years as an advocate for drug safety. I love this quote from her; “Sickness used to happen to you. Now we live in a world where it’s being sold to us.” The US and New Zealand are the only two developed nations that allow direct pharmaceutical to consumer marketing (ex drug commercials on tv). www.kimwitczak.com
And the side effects read as rapidly as possible sound like an advertisement for a bad horror movie. Generally, they make me want to run from those drugs as fast as possible!
They hire people who trained in modern debate diction.
But seriously, they do it with signal processing. I was playing with a sound editing program (audacity) one day, trying to increase the tempo without increasing the pitch. The music stopped briefly and a man talked in the recording - his voice became like those disclaimers you hear in advertisements. That's no doubt how they do that. Nobody can talk that fast.
Health food supplements (all the stuff in the Vitamin isle at the grocery store) have changed their language recently from "helps do this or that" to "might help", so maybe some headway is being made. But not being an optimist, I doubt it will make any difference.
A friend who trained as an RN and taught at a university hospital once said about hospitals - “they can kill you in there!” We need to be better educated about the risks of healthcare intervention!
Yep. There’s the happy happy advert for 15 seconds, what a wonderful drug! - and then the following 15 seconds of high speed annotation of all the potential side effects of taking said drug, including death, of course..
Always worth a laugh, as I sip my life shortening gin and tonic.
Funny. At least to me. Not one mention of one's relationship with G-d. After all, life is G-d's most precious gift. One should have G-d in one's life because it keeps you humble and you see life with a broader perspective.6
That’s the amazing and overflowing grace of God, Lee. He gives you your life, your loves, and all of the beauty in the world, and you don’t even have to thank Him or even recognize His existence. He gives it anyway! Have a great weekend.
As my father said on his 99th birthday, "If I knew I was going to live this long, I'd have taken better care of myself." I like best Geroge Carlin's observations about healthy living: "Perfect health is just the slowest way to die"; and "I pity the guy that regularly exercises, doesn't smoke, drink alcohol, or carouse with women. Someday he is going to be lying in a hospital bed dying of nothing."
I think the gist of it is to expand your healthspan, rather than your lifespan. In other words: increase the amount of years in which you can participate in the things you love, with the people you love, without being hobbled by pain.
Exercise is the silver bullet. HIIT. I’ve been doing it for almost seven years, so pleased, as is my doctor. In general, the medical industry sets the bar WAY too low for seniors.
HIT alone will not do it, you need to also focus on mitochondria development. Listen to his podcast interview with Iñigo San-Millán: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6PDBVRkCKc
You also need to focus on flexibility, stability, and nutrition, as well as mental health. Peter Attia discusses this all in his book.
This reminds me of something i remember Scott Adams saying years ago - to establish good habits in the four pillars of good health: sleep, exercise, diet and stress management and to remember it's difficult to enjoy good health if you neglect one or more of those things. I thought that was a simple but wise way of looking at things.
(I know he's not doing so hot these days. I think he should have filed 'don't marry influencer bimbo young enough to be granddaughter' under stress management.)
NCMaureen- Jordan Peterson interviews him on a podcast that addresses things you can do to improve health. Dr. Atria also has his own podcast- The Drive.
I took a nutritional anthropology course in grad school—the study of the intersection between culture and food. What I remember? My professor’s brilliant line—“It is easier to change your sex than your eating habits”. This was around 1980, so it actually was. Eating habits are so culturally ingrained, it is really difficult to get people to change.
Another great line from another prof—-if stress kills, why are we advising people to obsess over their diets?
Dr Vinay Prasad did a recent youtube video wherein he shows that most nutrition research is crap. Something I have agreed with for a long time. He advised to just be reasonable and remember what gramma advised—-eat a little of everything, not too much of anything, and go out and play everyday. Of course, then professors wouldn’t need big NIH grants.
Agree. Portions are key. If you go to Italy (or most European countries), people don't fill their huge plates with food, they walk and do most of their cooking at home. The phrase, "All You Can Eat," is an American concept.
Globalist pukes seem to be invincible, as a force. They're like the brown marmorated stink bugs that over 12 years have gone from a six-week problem once a year to being a constant nuisance at our house in Virginia (Thanks, Asia!). You can crush hundreds of them every day and they will be replaced. We have become resigned to living with them.
And speaking of being resigned to living with things you shouldn't have to live with, I blame the Zeitgeist (which includes but is not limited to globalist pukes, insanity from the Left, and authoritarian government) for much of the poor mental and physical health in the United States. What is being imposed on us is unnatural and irrational. We are the frogs and the water is beginning to boil.
Whats boiling the water is the heat coming off the anger of Americans at the perp's in the DNC/CCP/WEF juggernaut responsible for this mess. Hold the line.
“It is easier to change your sex than your eating habits”. Unless you are like me, a fanatic. I am wired differently than most. I believe I have said this before on this BBS but I am going to bore you again by repeating it.
When I retired, I ballooned from 165 lbs. to 200 lbs. and said, "Well I guess I'm now going to be fat." I said this because I knew that losing weight is, for most people, almost impossible to do.
Well, soon after I was diagnosed with diabetes. I knew there was a relationship between being overweight and getting diabetes. A switch tripped in my brain and I became a weight loss fanatic.
When I would go out to eat, I would order with my meal a to go box. When my meal arrived I would put half of it in the box. I would save it for my next meal.
After dinner I wouldn't eat anything until the next day, no more snacks while reading or watching TV. I was always hungry. I got used to it. I found out what it was like to be anorexic which really pissed my wife off. I would look at food and think, "I don't need that." I also gave up simple carbs like white bread, potatoes and such, almost anything white.
I lost 35 lbs. in three months and since then another 6 lbs.
I know what I did isn't for everybody but it boils down to will power.
A side effect is I have never taken diabetes meds. I still have diabetes but I have kept my blood glucose at normal levels through diet.
Anybody can do what I did but most can't. I'm not being judgmental, just stating a fact.
Congratulations. You are among the 5% of dieters who lose weight and keep it off. Your formula works for you. Eat half, exercise, be hungry.
Think about the fact that even people who have had bariatric surgery regain some of their weight. Why? Armies of nutritionists, physicians and dietitians can’t answer that. Saying all it takes is willpower doesn’t go over well with fatties.
My wife takes a harsh med that gives her diarrhea and cuts back on her appetite. I eat almost the same food as she does but twice as much. I lose weight and she doesn't. Her heart rate at rest is between 45 and 50 beats per second. I don't think she takes in 800 calories a day. She has a super low metabolism.
When overweigh people say they have a low metabolism, I used to say "Yeah, right." Now I believe it.
Yes, idling low is a problem for older women. A HR of 45-50 is really low, mine is 60 and I thought that was low. Is she petite?
The only thing I can do is expend more energy via activity. I have 2 1/2 acres of land that constantly needs attention, and I can work off 1000 kcal in a morning. Even then a 2000 kcal/day intake is all I can have and not gain weight.
Mine was the Stop Eating diet. After I harvested the low-hanging fruit; no more soda by the quart, followed by no more orange juice by the quart (just because the sugar is natural...), relentless attack on carbs (other than recreational ethanol in moderation), I lost about 30 lb, then kinda trended laterally. Then, for irrelevant reasons, events one day conspired to prevent me from eating anything until late afternoon. And I realized that I wasn't any more hungry than I would have been had I eaten breakfast and lunch. So I ate nothing before 6 PM unless it was for social reasons. About six months and 75 lb later, I moderated. Very little. And never went back.
Forget the NIH grants. Think of the hundreds of billions spent advertising and promoting bad food and the corruption of government complicity. "Snackwells," anyone?
As far as "do men do anything about it?" Many of us do. Lots of exercise, better diet, trying to become more aware and involved. Dr. Attia is right about how the insane amounts we worked for our families didn't necessarily translate into us being present for them.
Actually, Peter Attila's advice is not "moderation in everything. His book and his website is amazing. I've learned a ton from him, and I've been a board certified anesthesiologist for 26 years.
Good. How would you feel about a website about anesthesiology hosted by someone who wasn’t really an anesthesiologist? Nutrition seems to be one of those fields where people can just anoint themselves experts. Maybe he has studied nutrition. But I doubt he did in medical school.
I don't know what he has or hasn't studied, but I do know he graduated from Stanford Medical School, and completed a surgical residency and a surgical oncology fellowship. I also know he is familiar with the research on a broad variety of topics related to metabolic health, and continually modifies his guidance based on the latest data, which is exactly what physicians are supposed to do.
Let’s make a deal. I won’t pretend to be a physician/surgeon/oncologist because I read the literature. And I would appreciate that doctors who haven’t spent 40 yrs in the nutrition world not pretend to know something about nutrition because they read some books and papers. It’s sexy to be a doc who posts articles about timely nutrition topics. I’ve seen many come and go.
I agree - I'm typically a skeptic when it comes to 'experts' giving out advice, and I've been following him for a while and listening to his podcasts (also have started his book). The man is brilliant and agree with you - the most important thing he does is continually evaluate new data in light of what's considered to be 'the gospel' and he will change is mind. Gotta respect that.
I've always remembered a very short Economist article of the early 1980s about a British study of heart attacks in Indian males who immigrated at very young ages, or while in utero, and finding a lot of the problems traced back to no longer eating what their bodies had come to expect while in their mothers' wombs. It struck me at the time, and to this day, as very common sensical.
I think you're spot on. Too many people concentrate on how they look without giving pause to 'smell the roses,' which entails keeping one's mental health in top shape as well. Friends, family and social activities are all part of living a good life, if not a long one.
Yeah... Most people already know how to live longer. But they wait for revelation. Spectators of their own collapse. Go buy the book, maybe there will be a shortcut hidden in a margin or the caption of the author's picture.
If you wake up thinking, "I can't do this for the next 40 years." Then I'm pretty sure you are right.
And then there's Biden.....way past his own expiration date, but still bumbling and stumbling, snarling that we're all racists and white supremacists and afflicting decent, hard working Americans with piss-poor lives, regardless of our own efforts to live better, happier and healthier days.
Relationships, spending time outside in nature, weight bearing exercise, sleep are critical to quality of life. What’s the one thing interfering with all of them? Devices. Just saying.
Just another "what you should do" charlatan. He has no idea how or why we can or should live longer. Worse, he has no concept of the effect of genetics in determining our health or longevity. Finally, America is not one country, but two. 75% is Sweden or Japan with pretty good health and astounding longevity. The other 25% is Bangladesh. Do we have the honesty and courage to face the dichotomy?
Right. What I meant was that the 75%, fat or thin, have the same health outcomes as Swedes or Japanese. The number of people north of 90 is astounding.
Like yourself, I'm suspicious of the fountain of youth industry and Dr.Attia may or may not be just another my turn at the cash register charlatan. But, I do think the conversation is important. The American national narrative on health coming out of D.C. should be focused on common sense, lifestyle, prevention and personal responsibility. Of course, it isn't. (In fact the American political narrative should be focused on common sense, lifestyle, prevention and personal responsibility.) I work out. Some of my best thinking happens when I'm doing cardio. I'm not obsessed with, but I always have my ears open, for practical advice on health and fitness. Bottom line, as in everything else, you've got to do the work.
I believe that American's are beginning to face the "not one country, but two" dichotomy. Despite, what seems to be an industrial strength psyop devoted to convincing us not to, we are, at the least, beginning to see the necessity of a re-grounding in the core responsibility and values outlined in the Constitution. I find it almost impossible to engage fellow citizen's without their expressed concern, unsolicited by me, for the current state of affairs. Actual action for change or the necessary catalyst to bring it about? Maybe that's happening in subscription journalism. My opinion: The Twitter Files wouldn't have happened if Señor Taibbi and Ms. Weiss had not been available as free agents. (The reveal afterward was the Taibbi/Shellenberger DNC travesty. We scared the perp's.)
Comment sections throughout Substack are interwoven with the struggle to cope with the disintegration America is experiencing. Health wise, an observation of mine, is people allow themselves to get so out of shape they descend into hopelessness and can't find the psychic energy necessary to mount an effective physical fitness routine. And, most (bad American conditioning) believe they should be Charles Atlas in a week. It doesn't work that way. But, in an extreme example, if someone started with five minutes of cardio three times a week and increased it by five minutes a month for a year, at the end of the year they would be doing sixty minutes, three hours, of life saving cardio every week. The adversarial political forces attempting to pull the trigger on our lives force feeds us snake oil hopelessness every day and, they're in for the long run. We are responsible citizen's building and investing in a new fact/truth based American reality It's time to get clean. It's time to get clear. It's time to get strong.
Points well taken. I still remember the Boy Scout Oath: To keep myself physically strong, mentally alert, and morally straight. But what does fitness have to do with longevity? Maybe nothing.
The inability to accept death and the loss of youth is a symptom of the narcissism always at odds with the realism and acceptance demanded by responsible human maturity and stewardship. It's the primary disconnect, between those experiencing a meaningful subjective inner world connected directly to a living conscious universal reality, and those trapped in the sterility of beat the odds (at a profit) scientific reason. It's an inside job and an inside experience. The hubris and narcissism of our financial elite and the "woke" ideological utopianism of our Marxist/feminist D.E.I parallels the 20th Century horror perpetrated by Mao, Stalin and Hitler. It's pathological. Both exploit one another for the same end: access to and the exploitation of power for personal aggrandizement and gain. It's the psychology of a child. Unfortunately the human race (civilian's) are usually as we are witnessing, caught in the storm. Our simple Constitution and the Bill of Right's it contains is the only reasonable and sane reference available to deal with the sterility and insanity of we know what's best "true believer's".
Longevity aside, the best argument for good mental, physical and psychic health is the avoidance of the long decline and quality of a life lost to the death by a thousand cuts, bad diet, manufactured daily crisis, depression and anxiety, wonder drug consequence, of the pay me perp's. Strength, clarity, a sense of well being and personal agency all spring from a good workout. ("To thine own self be true--as night follows day--thou can be false to no other man.")
In the best circumstance those with good physical and mental strength just hit the wall and jump to light speed. Of course there is no guarantee and nobody can provide one. We spring alive full blown from the great mystery but we should remember that we all own a death.
Good discussion which reinforces my own experience. Having goals and purpose keeps me going. (79 and have several long-term goals, including writing a book)
I am mis-reading this? Did he actually say "For example, let’s say you’re 25 and you have type 2 diabetes, high blood pressure, bad lipids, anything like that—none of that is going to matter in the next ten years. There is nothing you can do." There is a lot you can do 1) to reverse T2, high blood pressure, bad lipid, etc 2) and to prevent these conditions. All of those conditions are caused by food - sugar, carbs, seed oils, ultra-processed foods.
Absolutely! The literature is rife with people who reversed their type 2 diabetes by deciding to make better lifestyle choices around eating and exercise.
I think he's speaking in terms of serious medical outcomes. There certainly is something you can do to reverse your diabetes. But, for example, ASCVD risk scores (the sort of 10-year risk calculators for stroke and heart attack that he talks about) don't even calculate in that age bracket because the risk is so low. Thus you "can't do anything" to prevent a heart attack or a stroke in a 25-year-old because it wasn't going to happen anyway, not within the timeframe that we consider in making medical decisions. He's critiquing the limits of medical thinking in this regard.
I guess that makes sense, but why wouldn't the insurance companies want to save money by getting these youngsters off prescription meds? Sadly, the current state of "medical thinking" is making our country very unhealthy to the benefit of big pharma, food and medicine.
In the podcast, he opens up talking about how most people's health insurance is not long-term either. It changes when people change jobs, and most people transition to government insurance (Medicare), which coincidentally is driving our country's budget crisis and is paid for by taxes, not insurance premiums.
Most young people aren't going to be on a ton of medications for these lifestyle conditions, but even if they are, the private insurance company is paying a relative pittance for statins and metformin and passing off the costs of Neuro ICU stays for stroke and Cath labs for heart attacks on to the government, because these things most often happen in people of retirement age, albeit after a lifetime of accumulated physiological damage.
That's what I understood Dr. Attia's case to be, at least. And it makes sense to me.
I was wondering about just how many 25 year olds have type 2 diabetes. Probably more than I realize, but surely it can't be that big of a number?
But I do get his point - many people in their twenties feel immortal with respect to illness. Not only do they ignore taking steps that would prolong their lives later on, a certain percentage of them have such a fear/abhorrence of becoming "old" that they can neither imagine it or in some cases wish for young deaths. There were several among the cohort I grew up with that used to assume and/or hope they would be dead by forty. Some of it was bluster, of course. But when I look at the lifestyles they followed, it wasn't entirely that.
A surprisingly high number of 25-year-olds either have type 2 diabetes or impaired glucose tolerance (precursor to type 2 diabetes.). Their journey started at the supermarket when Mom reached for that box of Cocoa Puffs.
Forgive me! I'm too lazy to hunt down the stats for you. (Still on first cup of coffee. 😄)
The good news is that in many cases, their condition can be reversed with diet and exercise.
We can do so much of this on our own (eat fresh, walk more, smaller portions. Live like a European.)
But some stuff needs government action. Mine:
1. Ban advertising of prescription drugs on TV.
2. Food stamps cannot be used for snacks, or anything with high fructose corn syrup or preservatives. Only eligible liquids are milk and 100% juices. Buy fresh, or real food (frozen ok)only.
3. Gym class and recess cannot be eliminated from school curricula.
The suggestion about banning prescription drug advertising on TV means life has come full circle. Some of us remember when such advertising was actually banned from TV (along with medical advertising). The ban was removed when people complained about not hearing about the latest medical advances.
I'm not sure how I feel about government action, but a glaring omission in the public health conversation is alcohol. As the great philosopher Homer Simpson observed, it's the cause of, and solution to!, all of life's problems.
The very title of this article gives me a feel for the way the generations are aging. The kids have realised they aren't going to live forever! Welcome to my world.
I remember going to a continuing medical education lecture, and hearing this remark (possibly made up for laughs, but the essence is true:
"If you eat the right foods in the right amounts, exercise hard, don't smoke, don't drink and don't take up skydiving, you will gain an average of four years of extra life, and there is a 70% chance you will spend those extra years in a nursing home."
A sobering thought, or perhaps I should rephrase that after I pour myself another drink....
Covid itself certainly contributed to Americans’ recent decline in longevity, but another reason why we have continued that decline I believe relates to Dr. Attia’s comments about living with anger. In the past few years, more so than previously, we as a society have just gotten more angry.
Our politics have become even more divisive, with people seeing those with opposing views as the enemy, out to destroy our way of life. Identity politics reduces us to single prime attributes and tells us that we either are fated to be oppressed or even unwittingly to be an oppressor. Grievances weigh on us, separate us from others, severing old connections and preventing new ones. As much as people have protested their grievance du jour, there still is a sense of having no agency, no ability to change anything. Our children are being encouraged to be warriors for social justice while at the same time being taught that such change is impossible.
We’re losing our ability to connect with others, especially when the things that make us different separate us rather than give us opportunities to share and understand.
Unfortunately, I’ve seen this increased anger and divisiveness with my own family. As a political moderate in a family of progressives, I’ve learned I can’t speak my mind, and I’ve grown resentful of that. One recent conversation with my brother, with whom I used to be quite close, ended up with him screaming at me for disagreeing with him on something. While we basically have wordlessly declared a truce—with the topic of anything political off the table for discussion, at least for me—it changed how I feel about him.
It’s sad, and I don’t see us as a society moving in a better direction on this anytime soon.
This happened during the sixties. It bothered me then, as I was coming of age, but we came through it. That gives me hope. It also happened in the Civil War. This is all amplified by social media, but, as I say to myself, at least we are not bayonetting each other.
For my part, I have learned to sense when I've had enough of politics for my own peace of mind, and there are few political discussions in my family. There is a place for the old Southern maxim, don't discuss politics or religion at the table.
And have a gratitude practice. It's been known scientifically for 20 years that it is a boost to health and happiness.
We have turned into a nation of right-fighters - not arguing in search of a sensible solution but rather to prove we are right about whatever the topic du jour is. That is why we never feel heard. We aren't. It is nothing more than my-way-or-the-highway.
It is very sad. So, why do people get so enraged when someone disagrees with them? Why do families and friendships get so broken over opinions? I pretty much know the answers but still feel helpless.
“If you think about maternal and infant mortality, what it was like 200 years ago, it was insane.”
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It’s vastly improved now that men are having babies. Men are better at most stuff.
😂😂😂
Wait til the effects of additional testosterone in utero come out. There's a case of a "trans" man who got pregnant, and the baby is exhibiting serious signs of neurological disorder, something like catatonia.
Why on earth would Glamour put this on the cover of their magazine? Why live longer at this level of stupidity?
Not to mention the hundreds of thousands of new cross-sex hormone cancer patients……..ALL OF WHICH I WILL HAVE TO F**KING PAY FOR.
But yes, “conservatives”, it’s a private business they can do whatever they want. Because we don’t regulate businesses.
Exactly!
This is exactly what I have questioned. Many pregnant women won’t even drink coffee, let alone a glass of wine (heaven forbid!). Yet we are to celebrate pregnant transmen who must be on hormones throughout pregnancy to avoid reversal effects.
That’s such an important observation. What does that do to the baby?!
Matt Walsh’s movie, “What is a Woman?” is being shown for free this weekend on none other than Twitter. Very well done but so disgusting to see what medical professionals and academia have done to contribute to this messed up mindset. Science is nonexistent in their case. Elon even tweets that all parents must see it. This never would’ve happened pre-Elon.
It’s really well done. Walsh keeps asking questions and just let’s them talk.
(Spoiler: As I recall , a woman is an adult female human.)
Yes! No one could answer his questions logically! But of course nbc uses the word “anti-trans” in it’s headline relating to Musk. So glad they offered it for free viewing. It’s like preaching to the choir to only offer it to Daily Wire subscribers.
OMG. You’re on a roll already at the break of day. Whatever you’re putting in your coffee, I want some. 😂
Right?!?
😂😂😂
Made my day :)
“But the dream was basically that I was trying to catch eggs that were being dropped from a roof three or four stories up. I had a padded basket, so as long as the egg would hit the basket, I was fine. But invariably the eggs would come down at too great a frequency, or I simply couldn’t get to them in time. Invariably, they would hit the ground.”
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This dream is so much more terrifying now that Joe Biden has made eggs cost $25.
Our genius of mirth! Bari should pay you a stipend; as many come here to enjoy your sardonic sniping.
This is why I referred to my Twitter ban as ‘mirth control’.
I want micropayments in Bitcoin for my scintillating humorous asides.
And 81 million Americans have entrusted Biden to carry their $25/dozen eggs, he is doing a wonderful job of walking with all their eggs on his shoulders, but some mean MAGA went and put down sandbags in his path. 😬
Clever take.
See what you can accomplish without foul language?
Keep it coming.......
Define foul. Kevin wouldn't say shit if had a mouthful. Right, Kev?
It’s when you become serious, Kevin - that’s when I’ll start to worry. You might actually change some things. Until then, I can sleep at night..
At no point will I ‘change’ the eternal Democrat desire to attempt building the Tower of Babel for the 37,000th time.
I am only here so that, when they fail catastrophically, they are sufficiently burdened with the knowledge that the obnoxious guy from the internet was smarter than them.
But at some point, when the enemy Dems fail, who will pick up the pieces? Is it the comical poster, or someone who has ideas?
I know you have them.
I’m more focused on navigating Holodomor 2.0, honestly. Maybe Tom Cotton will be Emperor? One step at a time, Lee.
“He who plans for after the famine shall eat his plans during the famine.”
-unknown
Hey, did you hear that fertilizer is bad for the environment and the prohibition of pedophilia is socially constructed?
I think what we are working on will be so much worse than the Holdomor.
When Africa runs out of food we have to start sending them WEF members to eat.
Not much meat on a scarecrow like Kerry but it’s a start.
I think I like this - but I’m not sure why.
My friend, Kim Witczak, would be a great follow up interview. She has worked for 19 years as an advocate for drug safety. I love this quote from her; “Sickness used to happen to you. Now we live in a world where it’s being sold to us.” The US and New Zealand are the only two developed nations that allow direct pharmaceutical to consumer marketing (ex drug commercials on tv). www.kimwitczak.com
I love that quote from your friend, too! It is SO true.
Seventy percent of prescription drugs advertised on television are rated as having low therapeutic value. See https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2800405
And the side effects read as rapidly as possible sound like an advertisement for a bad horror movie. Generally, they make me want to run from those drugs as fast as possible!
That's the right impulse!!! 😀
They hire people who trained in modern debate diction.
But seriously, they do it with signal processing. I was playing with a sound editing program (audacity) one day, trying to increase the tempo without increasing the pitch. The music stopped briefly and a man talked in the recording - his voice became like those disclaimers you hear in advertisements. That's no doubt how they do that. Nobody can talk that fast.
Health food supplements (all the stuff in the Vitamin isle at the grocery store) have changed their language recently from "helps do this or that" to "might help", so maybe some headway is being made. But not being an optimist, I doubt it will make any difference.
Might...can...has shown...there are studies...research points to...I could go on. But I won’t!
A friend who trained as an RN and taught at a university hospital once said about hospitals - “they can kill you in there!” We need to be better educated about the risks of healthcare intervention!
Yep. There’s the happy happy advert for 15 seconds, what a wonderful drug! - and then the following 15 seconds of high speed annotation of all the potential side effects of taking said drug, including death, of course..
Always worth a laugh, as I sip my life shortening gin and tonic.
Funny. At least to me. Not one mention of one's relationship with G-d. After all, life is G-d's most precious gift. One should have G-d in one's life because it keeps you humble and you see life with a broader perspective.6
Life is not worth living without Him! Thank you for pointing this out!
There a few million atheists out there (maybe even a neighbour of yours), it would be good of you to let them know their lives aren’t worth living..
They might be surprised to hear it.
That’s the amazing and overflowing grace of God, Lee. He gives you your life, your loves, and all of the beauty in the world, and you don’t even have to thank Him or even recognize His existence. He gives it anyway! Have a great weekend.
You as well.
Can you please just spell out God? I don’t know why we have to obscure the word God.
It's a Jewish thing.
Ok, got it. Thanks.
As my father said on his 99th birthday, "If I knew I was going to live this long, I'd have taken better care of myself." I like best Geroge Carlin's observations about healthy living: "Perfect health is just the slowest way to die"; and "I pity the guy that regularly exercises, doesn't smoke, drink alcohol, or carouse with women. Someday he is going to be lying in a hospital bed dying of nothing."
RIP George Carlin. I miss that man.
I think the gist of it is to expand your healthspan, rather than your lifespan. In other words: increase the amount of years in which you can participate in the things you love, with the people you love, without being hobbled by pain.
Quality not quantity!
What was new in this discussion? I kept waiting for some revelation. Never came.
If interested, you need to read the book. Exercise and decent sleep are major components of what he thinks are essential in your later years.
Exercise is the silver bullet. HIIT. I’ve been doing it for almost seven years, so pleased, as is my doctor. In general, the medical industry sets the bar WAY too low for seniors.
There are no sliver bullets.
HIT alone will not do it, you need to also focus on mitochondria development. Listen to his podcast interview with Iñigo San-Millán: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6PDBVRkCKc
You also need to focus on flexibility, stability, and nutrition, as well as mental health. Peter Attia discusses this all in his book.
Hear, hear.
This reminds me of something i remember Scott Adams saying years ago - to establish good habits in the four pillars of good health: sleep, exercise, diet and stress management and to remember it's difficult to enjoy good health if you neglect one or more of those things. I thought that was a simple but wise way of looking at things.
(I know he's not doing so hot these days. I think he should have filed 'don't marry influencer bimbo young enough to be granddaughter' under stress management.)
NCMaureen- Jordan Peterson interviews him on a podcast that addresses things you can do to improve health. Dr. Atria also has his own podcast- The Drive.
Here's some revelations:
Don't tug on superman's cape.
Don't draw against the Lone Ranger
and last but not least, don't piss into the wind. For women: Don't spit into the wind.
....and don't mess around with Jim, da da dada da dah dootin dootin'.....
It’s best for women not to piss in the wind either. And men should definitely not spit in the wind.
Maybe not much, but how many people - particularly men - needed to hear it? I found a lot of wisdom in it. As I find in your comments. Usually, lol.
Oh, men hear it. But do they do anything?
I took a nutritional anthropology course in grad school—the study of the intersection between culture and food. What I remember? My professor’s brilliant line—“It is easier to change your sex than your eating habits”. This was around 1980, so it actually was. Eating habits are so culturally ingrained, it is really difficult to get people to change.
Another great line from another prof—-if stress kills, why are we advising people to obsess over their diets?
Dr Vinay Prasad did a recent youtube video wherein he shows that most nutrition research is crap. Something I have agreed with for a long time. He advised to just be reasonable and remember what gramma advised—-eat a little of everything, not too much of anything, and go out and play everyday. Of course, then professors wouldn’t need big NIH grants.
Agree. Portions are key. If you go to Italy (or most European countries), people don't fill their huge plates with food, they walk and do most of their cooking at home. The phrase, "All You Can Eat," is an American concept.
Portions, yes. But quality, too. Grown, farmed and prepared better. Not loaded with additives. Much more care put into agriculture.
I truly hope the Dutch farmers crush the globalist pukes who are trying to destroy them.
Globalist pukes seem to be invincible, as a force. They're like the brown marmorated stink bugs that over 12 years have gone from a six-week problem once a year to being a constant nuisance at our house in Virginia (Thanks, Asia!). You can crush hundreds of them every day and they will be replaced. We have become resigned to living with them.
And speaking of being resigned to living with things you shouldn't have to live with, I blame the Zeitgeist (which includes but is not limited to globalist pukes, insanity from the Left, and authoritarian government) for much of the poor mental and physical health in the United States. What is being imposed on us is unnatural and irrational. We are the frogs and the water is beginning to boil.
Whats boiling the water is the heat coming off the anger of Americans at the perp's in the DNC/CCP/WEF juggernaut responsible for this mess. Hold the line.
They make good pets.
If it is true that the first ingredient in baby formula is high fructose corn syrup, which is genetically modified, that pretty much says it all.
“It is easier to change your sex than your eating habits”. Unless you are like me, a fanatic. I am wired differently than most. I believe I have said this before on this BBS but I am going to bore you again by repeating it.
When I retired, I ballooned from 165 lbs. to 200 lbs. and said, "Well I guess I'm now going to be fat." I said this because I knew that losing weight is, for most people, almost impossible to do.
Well, soon after I was diagnosed with diabetes. I knew there was a relationship between being overweight and getting diabetes. A switch tripped in my brain and I became a weight loss fanatic.
When I would go out to eat, I would order with my meal a to go box. When my meal arrived I would put half of it in the box. I would save it for my next meal.
After dinner I wouldn't eat anything until the next day, no more snacks while reading or watching TV. I was always hungry. I got used to it. I found out what it was like to be anorexic which really pissed my wife off. I would look at food and think, "I don't need that." I also gave up simple carbs like white bread, potatoes and such, almost anything white.
I lost 35 lbs. in three months and since then another 6 lbs.
I know what I did isn't for everybody but it boils down to will power.
A side effect is I have never taken diabetes meds. I still have diabetes but I have kept my blood glucose at normal levels through diet.
Anybody can do what I did but most can't. I'm not being judgmental, just stating a fact.
Congratulations. You are among the 5% of dieters who lose weight and keep it off. Your formula works for you. Eat half, exercise, be hungry.
Think about the fact that even people who have had bariatric surgery regain some of their weight. Why? Armies of nutritionists, physicians and dietitians can’t answer that. Saying all it takes is willpower doesn’t go over well with fatties.
If has to be a significant, permanent, change to get a significant result. "Diets" are seldom meaningful or sustainable.
My wife takes a harsh med that gives her diarrhea and cuts back on her appetite. I eat almost the same food as she does but twice as much. I lose weight and she doesn't. Her heart rate at rest is between 45 and 50 beats per second. I don't think she takes in 800 calories a day. She has a super low metabolism.
When overweigh people say they have a low metabolism, I used to say "Yeah, right." Now I believe it.
Yes, idling low is a problem for older women. A HR of 45-50 is really low, mine is 60 and I thought that was low. Is she petite?
The only thing I can do is expend more energy via activity. I have 2 1/2 acres of land that constantly needs attention, and I can work off 1000 kcal in a morning. Even then a 2000 kcal/day intake is all I can have and not gain weight.
Mine was the Stop Eating diet. After I harvested the low-hanging fruit; no more soda by the quart, followed by no more orange juice by the quart (just because the sugar is natural...), relentless attack on carbs (other than recreational ethanol in moderation), I lost about 30 lb, then kinda trended laterally. Then, for irrelevant reasons, events one day conspired to prevent me from eating anything until late afternoon. And I realized that I wasn't any more hungry than I would have been had I eaten breakfast and lunch. So I ate nothing before 6 PM unless it was for social reasons. About six months and 75 lb later, I moderated. Very little. And never went back.
That is basically what I did. If you want to lose weight, keep your mouth shut.
Forget the NIH grants. Think of the hundreds of billions spent advertising and promoting bad food and the corruption of government complicity. "Snackwells," anyone?
As far as "do men do anything about it?" Many of us do. Lots of exercise, better diet, trying to become more aware and involved. Dr. Attia is right about how the insane amounts we worked for our families didn't necessarily translate into us being present for them.
Ah yes, snackwells. Industry’s response to the food nannies’ advise that Fat in Any Amount Is Bad!
I rarely watch TV but have you noticed, food companies aren’t advertising like they used to. Now, all drug ads.
Actually, Peter Attila's advice is not "moderation in everything. His book and his website is amazing. I've learned a ton from him, and I've been a board certified anesthesiologist for 26 years.
Good. How would you feel about a website about anesthesiology hosted by someone who wasn’t really an anesthesiologist? Nutrition seems to be one of those fields where people can just anoint themselves experts. Maybe he has studied nutrition. But I doubt he did in medical school.
I don't know what he has or hasn't studied, but I do know he graduated from Stanford Medical School, and completed a surgical residency and a surgical oncology fellowship. I also know he is familiar with the research on a broad variety of topics related to metabolic health, and continually modifies his guidance based on the latest data, which is exactly what physicians are supposed to do.
Let’s make a deal. I won’t pretend to be a physician/surgeon/oncologist because I read the literature. And I would appreciate that doctors who haven’t spent 40 yrs in the nutrition world not pretend to know something about nutrition because they read some books and papers. It’s sexy to be a doc who posts articles about timely nutrition topics. I’ve seen many come and go.
I agree - I'm typically a skeptic when it comes to 'experts' giving out advice, and I've been following him for a while and listening to his podcasts (also have started his book). The man is brilliant and agree with you - the most important thing he does is continually evaluate new data in light of what's considered to be 'the gospel' and he will change is mind. Gotta respect that.
This Peter guy's Hun? Who knew?
I've always remembered a very short Economist article of the early 1980s about a British study of heart attacks in Indian males who immigrated at very young ages, or while in utero, and finding a lot of the problems traced back to no longer eating what their bodies had come to expect while in their mothers' wombs. It struck me at the time, and to this day, as very common sensical.
That kind of advice won't get you published.
Go Gramma!
I think you're spot on. Too many people concentrate on how they look without giving pause to 'smell the roses,' which entails keeping one's mental health in top shape as well. Friends, family and social activities are all part of living a good life, if not a long one.
Spot on Steverino. I wonder though, if I were able to be reborn knowing what I know now, remembering this life, would I do anything differently?
I think the goal of life is to live without regrets. That of course is not possible so the best one can achieve is few regrets.
Yeah... Most people already know how to live longer. But they wait for revelation. Spectators of their own collapse. Go buy the book, maybe there will be a shortcut hidden in a margin or the caption of the author's picture.
If you wake up thinking, "I can't do this for the next 40 years." Then I'm pretty sure you are right.
And then there's Biden.....way past his own expiration date, but still bumbling and stumbling, snarling that we're all racists and white supremacists and afflicting decent, hard working Americans with piss-poor lives, regardless of our own efforts to live better, happier and healthier days.
Thank you Bari, and Dr. Attia. I enjoyed the article - many good points.
As a practical suggestion Dr. Rhonda Patrick at FOUND MY FITNESS has a great interview with Dr.Attia.
I hate podcasts. I want to READ for information, not listen to someone stumbling around in conversational mode. It's inefficient.
And the brain processes it differently - more deeply and better memory. The book "The Shallows" has a lot about this.
Relationships, spending time outside in nature, weight bearing exercise, sleep are critical to quality of life. What’s the one thing interfering with all of them? Devices. Just saying.
Thanks for the reminder. Putting my phone away now. 😉🥴😴
Just another "what you should do" charlatan. He has no idea how or why we can or should live longer. Worse, he has no concept of the effect of genetics in determining our health or longevity. Finally, America is not one country, but two. 75% is Sweden or Japan with pretty good health and astounding longevity. The other 25% is Bangladesh. Do we have the honesty and courage to face the dichotomy?
Given that "overall more than 2/3 of Americans are overweight or obese," that doesn't sound like Sweden (where "only" one in 10 is obese).
Right. What I meant was that the 75%, fat or thin, have the same health outcomes as Swedes or Japanese. The number of people north of 90 is astounding.
Like yourself, I'm suspicious of the fountain of youth industry and Dr.Attia may or may not be just another my turn at the cash register charlatan. But, I do think the conversation is important. The American national narrative on health coming out of D.C. should be focused on common sense, lifestyle, prevention and personal responsibility. Of course, it isn't. (In fact the American political narrative should be focused on common sense, lifestyle, prevention and personal responsibility.) I work out. Some of my best thinking happens when I'm doing cardio. I'm not obsessed with, but I always have my ears open, for practical advice on health and fitness. Bottom line, as in everything else, you've got to do the work.
I believe that American's are beginning to face the "not one country, but two" dichotomy. Despite, what seems to be an industrial strength psyop devoted to convincing us not to, we are, at the least, beginning to see the necessity of a re-grounding in the core responsibility and values outlined in the Constitution. I find it almost impossible to engage fellow citizen's without their expressed concern, unsolicited by me, for the current state of affairs. Actual action for change or the necessary catalyst to bring it about? Maybe that's happening in subscription journalism. My opinion: The Twitter Files wouldn't have happened if Señor Taibbi and Ms. Weiss had not been available as free agents. (The reveal afterward was the Taibbi/Shellenberger DNC travesty. We scared the perp's.)
Comment sections throughout Substack are interwoven with the struggle to cope with the disintegration America is experiencing. Health wise, an observation of mine, is people allow themselves to get so out of shape they descend into hopelessness and can't find the psychic energy necessary to mount an effective physical fitness routine. And, most (bad American conditioning) believe they should be Charles Atlas in a week. It doesn't work that way. But, in an extreme example, if someone started with five minutes of cardio three times a week and increased it by five minutes a month for a year, at the end of the year they would be doing sixty minutes, three hours, of life saving cardio every week. The adversarial political forces attempting to pull the trigger on our lives force feeds us snake oil hopelessness every day and, they're in for the long run. We are responsible citizen's building and investing in a new fact/truth based American reality It's time to get clean. It's time to get clear. It's time to get strong.
See you at the gym.
Points well taken. I still remember the Boy Scout Oath: To keep myself physically strong, mentally alert, and morally straight. But what does fitness have to do with longevity? Maybe nothing.
The inability to accept death and the loss of youth is a symptom of the narcissism always at odds with the realism and acceptance demanded by responsible human maturity and stewardship. It's the primary disconnect, between those experiencing a meaningful subjective inner world connected directly to a living conscious universal reality, and those trapped in the sterility of beat the odds (at a profit) scientific reason. It's an inside job and an inside experience. The hubris and narcissism of our financial elite and the "woke" ideological utopianism of our Marxist/feminist D.E.I parallels the 20th Century horror perpetrated by Mao, Stalin and Hitler. It's pathological. Both exploit one another for the same end: access to and the exploitation of power for personal aggrandizement and gain. It's the psychology of a child. Unfortunately the human race (civilian's) are usually as we are witnessing, caught in the storm. Our simple Constitution and the Bill of Right's it contains is the only reasonable and sane reference available to deal with the sterility and insanity of we know what's best "true believer's".
Longevity aside, the best argument for good mental, physical and psychic health is the avoidance of the long decline and quality of a life lost to the death by a thousand cuts, bad diet, manufactured daily crisis, depression and anxiety, wonder drug consequence, of the pay me perp's. Strength, clarity, a sense of well being and personal agency all spring from a good workout. ("To thine own self be true--as night follows day--thou can be false to no other man.")
In the best circumstance those with good physical and mental strength just hit the wall and jump to light speed. Of course there is no guarantee and nobody can provide one. We spring alive full blown from the great mystery but we should remember that we all own a death.
The best health advice: Choose really healthy parents.
Good discussion which reinforces my own experience. Having goals and purpose keeps me going. (79 and have several long-term goals, including writing a book)
I am mis-reading this? Did he actually say "For example, let’s say you’re 25 and you have type 2 diabetes, high blood pressure, bad lipids, anything like that—none of that is going to matter in the next ten years. There is nothing you can do." There is a lot you can do 1) to reverse T2, high blood pressure, bad lipid, etc 2) and to prevent these conditions. All of those conditions are caused by food - sugar, carbs, seed oils, ultra-processed foods.
Absolutely! The literature is rife with people who reversed their type 2 diabetes by deciding to make better lifestyle choices around eating and exercise.
I think he's speaking in terms of serious medical outcomes. There certainly is something you can do to reverse your diabetes. But, for example, ASCVD risk scores (the sort of 10-year risk calculators for stroke and heart attack that he talks about) don't even calculate in that age bracket because the risk is so low. Thus you "can't do anything" to prevent a heart attack or a stroke in a 25-year-old because it wasn't going to happen anyway, not within the timeframe that we consider in making medical decisions. He's critiquing the limits of medical thinking in this regard.
I guess that makes sense, but why wouldn't the insurance companies want to save money by getting these youngsters off prescription meds? Sadly, the current state of "medical thinking" is making our country very unhealthy to the benefit of big pharma, food and medicine.
In the podcast, he opens up talking about how most people's health insurance is not long-term either. It changes when people change jobs, and most people transition to government insurance (Medicare), which coincidentally is driving our country's budget crisis and is paid for by taxes, not insurance premiums.
Most young people aren't going to be on a ton of medications for these lifestyle conditions, but even if they are, the private insurance company is paying a relative pittance for statins and metformin and passing off the costs of Neuro ICU stays for stroke and Cath labs for heart attacks on to the government, because these things most often happen in people of retirement age, albeit after a lifetime of accumulated physiological damage.
That's what I understood Dr. Attia's case to be, at least. And it makes sense to me.
I was wondering about just how many 25 year olds have type 2 diabetes. Probably more than I realize, but surely it can't be that big of a number?
But I do get his point - many people in their twenties feel immortal with respect to illness. Not only do they ignore taking steps that would prolong their lives later on, a certain percentage of them have such a fear/abhorrence of becoming "old" that they can neither imagine it or in some cases wish for young deaths. There were several among the cohort I grew up with that used to assume and/or hope they would be dead by forty. Some of it was bluster, of course. But when I look at the lifestyles they followed, it wasn't entirely that.
A surprisingly high number of 25-year-olds either have type 2 diabetes or impaired glucose tolerance (precursor to type 2 diabetes.). Their journey started at the supermarket when Mom reached for that box of Cocoa Puffs.
Forgive me! I'm too lazy to hunt down the stats for you. (Still on first cup of coffee. 😄)
The good news is that in many cases, their condition can be reversed with diet and exercise.
You might find this podcast very interesting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTS2fd3kE9I
We can do so much of this on our own (eat fresh, walk more, smaller portions. Live like a European.)
But some stuff needs government action. Mine:
1. Ban advertising of prescription drugs on TV.
2. Food stamps cannot be used for snacks, or anything with high fructose corn syrup or preservatives. Only eligible liquids are milk and 100% juices. Buy fresh, or real food (frozen ok)only.
3. Gym class and recess cannot be eliminated from school curricula.
4. Build more pedestrian and bike lanes.
The best book about preventing Heart Disease (and Dr Roberts is still practicing) was written by Drs. Stephen Sinatra and James Roberts: Reverse Heart Disease Now. https://www.amazon.com/Reverse-Heart-Disease-Now-Cardiovascular/dp/0470228784
The suggestion about banning prescription drug advertising on TV means life has come full circle. Some of us remember when such advertising was actually banned from TV (along with medical advertising). The ban was removed when people complained about not hearing about the latest medical advances.
I'm not sure how I feel about government action, but a glaring omission in the public health conversation is alcohol. As the great philosopher Homer Simpson observed, it's the cause of, and solution to!, all of life's problems.
The very title of this article gives me a feel for the way the generations are aging. The kids have realised they aren't going to live forever! Welcome to my world.
I remember going to a continuing medical education lecture, and hearing this remark (possibly made up for laughs, but the essence is true:
"If you eat the right foods in the right amounts, exercise hard, don't smoke, don't drink and don't take up skydiving, you will gain an average of four years of extra life, and there is a 70% chance you will spend those extra years in a nursing home."
A sobering thought, or perhaps I should rephrase that after I pour myself another drink....
Covid itself certainly contributed to Americans’ recent decline in longevity, but another reason why we have continued that decline I believe relates to Dr. Attia’s comments about living with anger. In the past few years, more so than previously, we as a society have just gotten more angry.
Our politics have become even more divisive, with people seeing those with opposing views as the enemy, out to destroy our way of life. Identity politics reduces us to single prime attributes and tells us that we either are fated to be oppressed or even unwittingly to be an oppressor. Grievances weigh on us, separate us from others, severing old connections and preventing new ones. As much as people have protested their grievance du jour, there still is a sense of having no agency, no ability to change anything. Our children are being encouraged to be warriors for social justice while at the same time being taught that such change is impossible.
We’re losing our ability to connect with others, especially when the things that make us different separate us rather than give us opportunities to share and understand.
Unfortunately, I’ve seen this increased anger and divisiveness with my own family. As a political moderate in a family of progressives, I’ve learned I can’t speak my mind, and I’ve grown resentful of that. One recent conversation with my brother, with whom I used to be quite close, ended up with him screaming at me for disagreeing with him on something. While we basically have wordlessly declared a truce—with the topic of anything political off the table for discussion, at least for me—it changed how I feel about him.
It’s sad, and I don’t see us as a society moving in a better direction on this anytime soon.
This happened during the sixties. It bothered me then, as I was coming of age, but we came through it. That gives me hope. It also happened in the Civil War. This is all amplified by social media, but, as I say to myself, at least we are not bayonetting each other.
For my part, I have learned to sense when I've had enough of politics for my own peace of mind, and there are few political discussions in my family. There is a place for the old Southern maxim, don't discuss politics or religion at the table.
And have a gratitude practice. It's been known scientifically for 20 years that it is a boost to health and happiness.
We have turned into a nation of right-fighters - not arguing in search of a sensible solution but rather to prove we are right about whatever the topic du jour is. That is why we never feel heard. We aren't. It is nothing more than my-way-or-the-highway.
It is very sad. So, why do people get so enraged when someone disagrees with them? Why do families and friendships get so broken over opinions? I pretty much know the answers but still feel helpless.
Because agreement signals tribal membership.
It is like submission to the alpha dog - toll over and present your weak side.