This is to me is the result of years of brainwashing by the main stream media. Which constantly demonized Israel and presented Palestinians as victims. While I do agree that before this event, I did think there was truth to both sides. There was the issue with the expanding Israeli settlements in the West Bank. And I had no doubt about the deep rooted anti semitism that Israel faced from its neighbours. And even if Israel did try to negotiate in good faith for a two state solution, its enemies wanted a total annihilation of Israel. BUT there is no grey area in this current conflict, this is black and white. I tragic to see how people can support this barbarity!!
Israeli settlements take less than 2% of the area of the west Bank and they have been practically frozen in terms of the territories they occupy for many years. This issue has been blown out of all proportion by the mass media and even many pro Israeli people buy it. In some of these settlements such as Hebron and Nablus, there was a large Jewish population up until 1948 when the area was captured by Jordan and the Jews were ethnically cleansed from there. The Jews came back after the 6 day war in 1967 but somehow this time it was illegal occupation for them to live in the very same places. While I strongly oppose some of the settlements and recognize a very problematic behavior of some of the settlers towards the Palestinians, I fail to see what moral principle is used in saying that Jews should not be allowed to live on Hebron, Nablus and e.g. the Jewish quarter of Jerusalem, which crazily is also considered occupied.
If Israel were to pull out of every single settlement in Judea and Samaria they would be no closer to knowing peace than they were after pulling out settlements in Gaza and giving the subhumans "self rule". These are not rational people. They can not be reasoned with. The only thing they comprehend is blind hatred and the barbarism which it inspires. And which much of the world is celebrating and encouraging.
Regarding Jerusalem, why is it that this is a holy city for the world's three major monotheistic faiths, yet only one -- and the youngest one at that -- claims sole ownership and control?
Israel doesn't kill any civilians, children, etc. Bus settlers in with IDF protection to take farms, homes, etc. while the owners are gone, or allow armed settlers to burn down communities, etc.
Luckily, there have never been an massscres of Palestinian civilians in those 70 years.
Now, Hamas went too far. And Israel will probably wipe out the Palestinians to that person. But it didn't happen for "no reason at all!" Just like Israel's response.
As I've always said, both sides are trash. Entire identities wrapped up their respective fairy tale books.
A friend's son who fought in Gaza in a previous war (I think 2008, after Hamas had seized power) was sent to a building before it was to be blown up, to make sure it was clear. On the roof they found dozens of Palestinian civilians who had been forced up there and locked in by Hamas, to serve as human shields so Israel wouldn't destroy the building - since Hamas knows the care Israel takes to avoid civilian casualties. The soldiers risked their lives to save these Arab civilians. You won't hear this true story in the media, though. I wonder why.
Hmmm.....you would think the IDF would record those types of things for evidence. Or at least Haaretz or the Times of Israel would report it. Interesting. A lot of buildings are being blown up now, but there's no Israeli troops in the area checking?
I am not aware of instances of "bussing settlers with IDF protection to take farms , homes, etc. while the owners are gone". Would be glad to see references. What is for sure is that Israel does not intentionally target women in children like Hamas do, and in fact go to huge lengths, including risking the lives of their own soldiers, to avoid them. Unfortunately with Hamas being embedded with the civilian population, and with the huge density of population in Gaza, it is impossible to avoid loss of civilian life.
Hamas, Hezbollah, etc. use their own citizens (women, children, etc) as human shields and always have. They put their headquarters in hospitals and their supplies in schools. Then, when Israel goes to destroy their ammunition -- they can say "look how many babies the IDF killed." As Golda Meir said years ago, "Peace will come when the Arabs love their children more than they hate us." I don't see that coming any time soon.
I think the majority of the brainwashing occurred - and still occurs - at the universities. Beginning in the late 1960’s, it became fashionable for academia and the intelligentsia to see oppressors and oppressed in every conflict and to choose the side of those that best portrayed themselves as oppressed. This is the stew in which Barack Hussein Obama was marinated, and why he hated/hates Israel . . . His days at Columbia and Yale in the 70’s and early 80’s.
That vile poster with the hang glider distributed on a state college campus pretty much says it all. And this is the womb of woke where everyone is supposed to be ultra sensitive to not offend any "marginalized" group. Slaughtered Jewish women and children are apparently exempt.
Then these brainwashed brats expect us the taxpayers to pick up the tab for four years of partying and miseducation. You almost want to feel sorry for them.
Totally! And the Ivies lead the way!! And we have all been encouraged to celebrate victims and embrace victim mentality. When I read the quotes from the 17 yr. old native Puerto Rican girl (recent convert to Islam!) I said "we're done for!" For Chrissakes- why on earth would a Puerto Rican (young woman) want to become a muslim? Victim intersectionality, I guess!
You are right on point with this. In the last 15 years, it’s felt like you were some ignorant, backwards Christian to want to see anything redeeming or good about Israel. That too came from the universities. I was there.
MSM May influence older people but I doubt the young watch it. I think their news sources are Facebook, Twitter YouTube etc. which are universal sources, some curated and filtered and some not. I think it makes sense, now, to look at those sources of truth and lies as the main influence now.
A bit of assumption I think. Young people pay attention to each other, especially in high school and college, not really their teachers. Grade school kids are influenced mostly by parents then peers then teachers. Unless you live with teachers you don’t really know what their sources of information is.
Personally, I don't support it, but when you record numbers of Palestinian children killed by IDF & settlers, when the IDF escorts settlers in to take homes, farms etc. while the owners are away, allows them to burn villages, etc. that might piss people off.
Really? Innocent Palestinian children deliberately murdered in their homes, not for example while firebombing Israeli cars, stabbing Israeli citizens or getting tragically caught in a firefight between Israeli troops and Hamas terrorists?
You mean, like Mohammad Al Dura? Eventually proven to be murdered by his own side so as to frame Israel?
Palestinian children get killed by Israeli snipers for walking too close to the fence.
IDF works with settlers to take homes, land, burn villages, stand idly by why settlers attack and murder Palestinian families, including "children and the elderly." That kind of stuff tends to piss people off.
Plenty of massacres/violence on both sides. But there's also good people on both sides.
What Hamas did is terrible. Israel's response will be terrible. Judging by their language and actions, so far - I doubt there will be anyone left alive.
If that's the case. Cool. Makes no difference to me. But this didn't happen "for no reason at all!""
Hell, maybe it might be for the best to wipe out the whole area, so maybe we can all finally quit talking abou it.
Both sides suck, IMO. Total identity wrapped up in their respective fairy tale books.
I would love to see proof of your claims re Israeli snipers from legitimate i.e. not Jew-hating sources.
There's definitely a big problem with the current fanatical rightwing government re several hundred violent Jewish extremists that are tacitly allowed to wreak havoc in certain areas iof Judea/Samaria, and these actions are opposed by a most Israeli citizens. But the majority of supposed atrocities are simply modern day blood libels. How many civilians did the US mistakenly kill while fighting Al Qaeda and the Taliban, who btw were never referred to as "militants" or "freedom fighters"? The 3"D"s of anti-Semitism are on full display., which is obvious to anyone with a modicum of intelligence and rational thought.
You are well within your right to not care less about the Jewish indigenous ties to their ancient homeland, or 2000 years of genocide, as long as you refrain from parroting the same old excuses to justify Jew hatred.
I tend to give a half-hearted eye roll to youthful protesters. They have limited exposure to the ways of the world, are merely a year or two removed from “that’s not fair Mom!!” We can’t expect much grasp of complexity.
These older folks aggravate the bejesus out of me. Some glitch in maturation has occurred. As individuals they are very frustrating to converse with- more close minded than the youth in fact. Nothing that contradicts their worldview can be processed.
Frankly I never thought we would see a protest supporting the massacre of 800+ people in the USA. Try that in a small town.
I used to think the same of youthful protesters, but no more. They are the ones who burned buildings, destroyed businesses, threw bombs, looted, and tore down statues after George Floyd. Multiple people were assaulted and/or killed. They need to be thrown in jail for their behavior instead of getting a nice little pat on the head from the commie professors who taught them lies for a worldview. The media is 100% complicit & also to blame. The old people protesting are just idiots-----I see this all the time, leftists who cannot accept reality is different than what they thought, and thus they shut out truth over & over. Your comment is spot on----"nothing that contradicts their worldview can be processed." I cannot imagine this behavior is tolerated in ANY SIZE town or city-----but courtesy of the Left, here we are.
What's scariest is people who are very smart in most ways, who as you said, can't accept that reality isn't what they've come to believe and completely shut out any world view or opinion that's not their own. It's maddening to me!
Agreed. Underlying this of course is an eagerness to showcase one’s hatred of Jews. People don’t know much about Israel but they know it’s a Jewish state. That’s all they need to know. “Go back where they came from” - where is that? There’s nowhere to go back to. Todays Israelis descend from people who escaped death camps and muslim countries where they were persecuted.
This is messaging - Jews aren’t welcome here or anywhere else.
People also don’t know how backwards the land and (most) of its Arab inhabitants were when Jews returned to present day Israel in 3 large waves between about 1900 and just before/after WW2. Arabs sold a lot of swamp land to Jews in those days (for gold) thinking it could never be cultivated. Well thanks to a lot of Jewish effort, kibbutzs and Aussie eculyptus trees — this lands was made green again. The land would not have prospered without Jew elbow grease. That is fact. Arabs had allowed that land sit undeveloped under Ottoman Empire for nearly 500 years. Arabs at the time also didn’t like that Jews treated their women as equals, example might be taken up by Arab women. The Pograms of Europe (and especially those in Russia/Poland) drove the Zionist movement, and return to present day Israel. And why not if all the Gentiles around you are periodically tee’ing off to rape, kill and mutilate those communities (Pale of Settlement). Get out and go where it’s safer. Now this past week, Hamas acts in similar way as past Pograms in Europe. Kids and many adults don’t know the history, just cover their ears and yell La-La-La
The glitch in maturity was the 1960's that glorified youth culture and resisted growing up for as long as possible. It's still a problem. Adults able to think of consequences and complexities and make hard decisions are increasingly difficult to find.
The 60s were only the start of the abdication of responsibility to those least qualified to exercise it. The trend has accelerated ever since; Ms Thune by her own sniveling little self being sufficient proof that this is so.
Joe Biden will, under threat of force, confiscate my money to pay for the elite College tuition for these "youthful protestors". I don't give them an eye roll. They are evil, as are everyone who enables them.
This is not the same NY as 2001. We’ve been inundated with foreigners who despise the US and America for twenty years but use our morals and high ideas to keep us hostage. I think Jews should take a hard long look at who is saying what and PLEASE REMEMBER next time you vote democrat. Black Lives Matter and black activists are not your friends. They deal in skin color and seperate themselves accordingly. We stand shoulder to shoulder with our friends in Israel who are completely innocent! But please please remember how it feels to be called guilty and bad no matter what the truth is like those of us on the right. We are not racist, we are not Islamaphobic, we aren’t Nazis. Most of us just want to be left alone and not pay half our wage to the govt. However I am appalled at the silence from Hollywood, Universities, the media, corporations. It’s frightening. They are all sheep.
You are exactly right, Rachel. We Jews have to recognize that the Democrat Party is no longer our friend. My husband and I are trying to spread the word to our families and friends but it is incredible to see how hard it is for some people to get out of the Republican hating mindset.
This is so true. I can’t tell you how many of my Jewish friends are shaking their heads and wringing their hands and guess who they will vote for next November?
Also note - BLM has never hidden which side they’re on. One of their many agendas is the so called liberation of Palestine. They are only getting started and they have the time and ability to organize the hell out of it.
BLM is not the Democratic Party. I think the realization who the Palestinians are (and have been for 75 years) is shocking to an ignorant public...........I had a discussion with my 21 year old son a couple years ago about his generations support for the Palestinians.............he had no idea of the history of the region.
BLM is more the democrat party than not. Look at San Fran Nan with her kinte cloth leading the kneeling of the dems in the Capitol. The democrats do not condemn the racism of black lives matter, but elevate it.
The democrats are not America’s friend. People need to wake up.
I have never heard an Israeli saying "Death to Arabs." Hamas declares "Death to Jews" not just in their parades and demonstrations, but in their charter. It's their purpose.
It shouldn't be incredible, Estra - when the GOP in the House allow the children in their rabid right wing vote against their own spineless Speaker, which, by the way, will hinder new military aid to Israel. Which they will need. Now the place is rudderless when votes are becoming, how should I say, VERY important?
It shouldn't be incredible when the GOP in the Senate is getting in the way of confirming approx three hundred senior military personnel in leadership positions from taking up their posts - or that two of the most important ambassadorships, Israel and Egypt (and other Arab states) remain unfilled since they cannot be confirmed due to GOP holds.
The Democrats could be a better friend to Israel, if the Republicans themselves would do the same.
It’s literally been 4 days. Funny you think that’s bad but are silent with Biden and democrat house senate releasing 280 million to Palestinian militants in 2021 as soon as they were sworn in and 6 billion Iran? Seriously do you think we are stupid? Israel doesn’t need aid they need our full support and Biden to stop taking sides with terrorists. PS Rabid right? This is the shit I’m talking about- the only rabid wing I see are the free Palestine movement on the left flashing Nazi symbols
Next time you vote for a Democrat see what they say about the Jews first. It always amazes me, that Jews in America support Democrats who hate Israel. Clinton may have been the last D President who wholeheartedly supported Israel.
Red, white, and green on the Empire State Building are from the Italian flag. Monday was a day of pride for Italians because it use to be Columbus Day. Gov Hochul wore a red, white, and green ribbon for a parade celebrating Italians and not Palestinians!
Gov Huchol spoke with courage against the rallys in support of the Palestinians referring to them as "abhorrent and morally repugnant." This bald and bold statement contrast against the very sly sentiments of "Pray for the Jews killed and for those who had no other choice but violence" and other softer shades of hate that are coming from many politicians, celebrities, and the media. The chanting protestors are absolutely as despicable as Gov Huchol stated, but they are like hissing snakes which declare that they are dangerous. How much more dangerous are the subtle statements that softly and very skillfully condemn the Jews for their own massacre and praise Hamas for their "noble struggle"?
Not a fan of Hochul but kudos to her for doing what any sane politician should do. And which, only a decade ago, would not have been noteworthy. Progressives have taken New York backward into the Dark Ages.
Understand your sentiment. When Newsom found the courage to condemn Hamas and state that he stood with Israel, I also applauded. Ironic that statements which seem so common sense, condemning the massacre of innocents, is now heroic.
Also applauding Larry Summers for his strong criticism of the silence of Harvard’s admin along with the 31Harvard clubs.
The Palestinian flag is black, white, and green with a red triangle. The Italian flag is orange,* green, and white. (Erase orange and insert red …fear those leprechauns!) I still stand with:
Wish the writers would have concluded with noting that France’s Eiffel Tower was blue and displaying Israel’s flag as a sign of solidarity with Israel and wondered where the US displayed their support for Israel.
Words are inadequate to describe this horror. If the United States does not stand up to this massacre, it's over. I'm elderly and I will be gone before the world ends in complete corruption and disintegration, but I'm mourning for the Jewish people and the terrible, terrible things that have been done. And I thank the Free Press, just for being as good as it is. Work on, good people, for bringing the truth to anyone who will listen.
Thank you for yet another brilliant breakdown of the hypocrisy and antisemitism in our very own country. My daughter lives in Manhattan and attends John Jay College. She has seen the the drastic increase in antisemitism. One of her first classes three years ago a professor said that Hamas was not a terrorist group. He response was let me share irrefutable evidence that its was. He apologized. She has been shocked as am I to find the lack of critical thinking in our college classrooms.
This is a reveal and unravel for the Jews as to who their enemies are and in many cases its their neighbor. They needed to open their eyes and note who saying what. This is a time to rethink their allegiances. As for the FBI they may want to pay attention as to what is being said at these rallies and how many Americans may justify crimes against humanity to further a political cause. They may find themselves unraveling the next terrorist attack on US.
We also may want to pay attention to how America is often called a colonizer. While I am not surprised it’s important to know how people really feel and think. To me that is the power of free speech is allowing the enemy to reveal itself. And we are seeing it before out eyes. Americans advocating for murder, and rape of unarmed citizens.
I posted on my FB and instagram what constitutes crimes against humanity. I also said the Jews are not exempt from crimes against humanity. The current characterization of Jews mimics the same dehumanization that the Nazi’s promoted.
Thank you for another brilliant article. These are very discouraging times. I am encouraged by your work!
“As for the FBI they may want to pay attention as to what is being said at these rallies and how many Americans may justify crimes against humanity to further a political cause. They may find themselves unraveling the next terrorist attack on US”
“The federal government believes that the threat of violence and major civil disturbances around the 2024 U.S. presidential election is so great that it has quietly created a new category of extremists that it seeks to track and counter: Donald Trump’s army of MAGA followers.”
“From the president down, the Biden administration has presented Trump and MAGA as an existential threat to American democracy and talked up the risk of domestic terrorism and violence associated with the 2024 election campaign”.
It is of paramount importance that Joe Biden be re-elected. Just ask the Ayatollah, Hamas, Hezbollah and the sleeper cells that have likely crossed our southern border to organize and incite the army of cretins parading around NYC and other US cities wanting to kill more Jews.
If they hadn't (thankfully) been so damn stupid as to get killed and caught- the Tzsarnaev bros. might have been in the crowds in Times Sq. or across from Israeli embassy. I'm sure some of their brothers (and sisters) in arms were representing!
Thanks for your comment Ana. I failed to see just how much antisemitism has spread throughout much of academia. I failed to see just how much antisemitism has spread through the legislative and executive branches of our government. I thought we had agreed that “hating Jews” was evil. I was wrong. This cold deliberate lack of empathy for these Jewish victims is diabolical. I am not Jewish, but have relationships with Jews of all ages. I love them all, but can’t understand why they align themselves with democrats and are repulsed by the Republican Party. I now wonder, since I was so blind to the volume of antisemitism now on display, that maybe my Jewish friends, with their allegiance to the Democrat Party, are blinded by the propaganda that party cleverly appeased them with. It is disheartening to hear that you send your daughter to college where your hopes are for to advance her thinking, to explore ideas and begin to find her place in life and she meets the seeds of indoctrination in one of her first classes. I’m glad she felt strong enough to challenge him. Unfortunately, many others are not like her and their minds are snatched up and programmed by this intentional social training. I feel this is the root of it. These aren’t yesterdays democrats. This is the evolvement of people hell bent (excuse the pun) on destroying freedom of everything. I cant understand the support for them.
I do understand why they are cautious with Republicans. Hitler was the extreme right. They associate right-wing with Hitler. I do know a lot of Jews that are Republicans. My husband being one of them. Agreed these aren't yesterday's Democrats I agree. This all makes Bill Clinton policies conservative.
Well this is the reason that debates are shut down at schools that is a deliberate strategy. The fruit of a debate is to arrive better choices not just to persuade on your perspective. Perhaps in the exchange there will be new ideas and perspecitves that are better. This is what she shared with one of the top professors and major researchers in the world in her field of Forensic Psychology. She shared that she thought the college was were you come to exchange and discover new perspectives not have a single perspective forced on you. She also shared with him that why must everyone succumb to the emotional meltdown of students who cannot defend their position and as a result the debate must be shutdown. I am never loose hope but we must continue to promote free speech and exchanges of information such as this so that we can make a difference.
“Americans advocating for murder, and rape of unarmed citizens.” Yes! A million times, this! What in the holy hell is wrong with these “protesters”?!? The twisted minds that can get behind such atrocities. It’s sickening!
We weren’t completely unified; there were islamists who celebrated in the streets in NYC and in London on 9/11 but this fact was memory holed and even denied because it might cause anti-Muslim sentiment. The disgusting rewrite of our history in order to project an alternate reality of blissful multicultural success and diversity in a leftist utopia. The next chant after “gas the Jews” is always “death to America” but yet we never see it coming.
Seeing the pro-Palestine protests has been eye opening. I find these US residents' brazen displays of overwhelming support for rapes, kidnappings, and torture of civilians extremely troubling. There is something seriously wrong with our society. That they feel emboldened to act in this way and that the rest of us have no effective way to tell them that their conduct offends our norms and values.
I was disgusted by the videos of the people celebrating in NYC. My first inclination was demand that we gather them up and ship them back to their own country, as they openly made statements of disdain for America!
We should be shipping them to their precious "Palestine" and see how they like Hamas then. They are all a bunch of cowards. I would happily trade these sickos to Hamas in an exchange of hostages.
I'd love to know if they are legal residents or illegal. If illegal they should be deported now. If they are merely residents, not citizens, they should be checked out, and if they cause problems, they can go back to their Palestinian Paradise under Hamas and Hezbollah. I noticed there were no women on the streets of Gaza while the men were running around abusing corpses.
Every one of these human pieces of garbage is a terrorist sympathizer. They worship murder, rape and depravity on a scale unimaginable to decent souls. They hate you, your children and everyone and thing you love.
They are the enemy. There is no temporizing. Treat them accordingly. Stand with Israel and for decency. Crush the lunatic left, once and for all.
Just saying that after a cursory glance at the Times of Gaza and Wafa - Palestinian news agency - I feel the need to report that neither news site even acknowledges that this current "war" was precipitated by an incursion into Israel by Hamas members who did a killing, raping, kidnapping spree. It didn't happen. Nothing.
Only the Israeli "Occupation" forces (occupation of Gaza ceased in 2005) bombing and maiming Palestinian children. That is all the news fit to print.
At first I just kept scrolling to look for the reports, as I was curious to see how they spun the events, but in fact, they just didn't report them. The aggression was wholly one-sided.
So under this kind of total disconnect with reality, how does one reason with these people? How do you foster potential statehood? There is nobody home. Just the fantasy narrative.
It is brutal. There are human beings under those bombs. But don't pretend that this came out of nowhere.
Exactly Lara. Thank you for posting this. I wish you would spread it more widely because this isn't widely known! This is what Israel has to deal with daily. There is no moral equity between the two. Palestinian children (and in fact, most Arabs) are taught to hate Jews from the crib. It's ingrained into every fiber of their being. And the scary thing is that even in the US so many believe the Palestinian and Muslim propaganda — lies that people now recite as fact (I'm seeing them posted all over social media right now).
The question is, who is listening? I rarely engage with people on social media because most people have the narrative that they committed to, at whatever point, and don't bother them with the facts.
With all the atrocities coming to light - 40 babies found slaughtered and burned, some beheaded, women raped and maimed before being executed, etc. , there is no need to conflate Hamas with the Palestinian cause, and yet this is a widely accepted position. Why?!?
Gazans have been rioting against Hamas in Gaza because they have brought such ruin to the area. But Hamas rules with an iron hand and the protests were shut right down.
This problem is further exacerbated by the Palestinians themselves because they can't or won't speak up and disavow Hamas.
And the cruelty of the West, by glossing over these realities, or justifying them boggles the mind.
And just for (horrible) fun, anyone reading my comment can go check out the Times of Gaza or Wafa, the Palestinian news site, and see that there is no mention of the attack on israel that precipitated this current bombing campaign. There is only Israel, the aggressor, bombing little children.
We are at war with Eurasia; we have always been at war with Eurasia...
It is incredibly troubling that we have a sizable portion of the American populace who do not understand the definition of ally. Our ally is Israel. Whatever retaliatory measures Israel decides to take to the gruesome and unprovoked attacks—we should support because that’s what an ally does. Everyone who wants to debate the long history of Israeli/Palestinian relations is welcome to do so. However, none of that changes the fact that our allegiance and loyalty is to Israel because they are our ally.
Israel started as a small partition. The Jews purchased malarial infested land and developed it. The Arabs didn’t. The Arabs waged war multiple times only to lose. Guess what? Losers in war tend to lose land. Every time land was negotiated for peace, the Israelis got terrorism. Israel has now become a strong modern country which makes it now an oppressor in many eyes. One thing the Arabs have is a great PR apparatus but look underneath the covers and you have nothing but barbaric feudalism.
If the billions of dollars sent to aid Palestinians had been used appropriately, Gaza would be a beautiful and safe place with prosperity for all. Those that see, see. Those that don’t never will.
Hell, if the Arabs took what the Jews left for them in 2005, they’d be prosperous. Instead, they destroyed everything and continue to live in teeming poverty and filth.
Gaza was beautiful, with lush flower nurseries and many beautiful communities in it when the Israelis left 20 years ago…..and what did the militants do as their first act when that happened……they burned anything the Jews had built there, the nurseries, the homes, the communities.
Israel, since its inception, has been under attack, directly by its Arab neighbors and Islamic extremists as well as the well-off, well-educated liberal elites who abhor the success of the democracy created by the Jews in the midst of Moslem tyrannies. These are the same people who hate the United States, who apologize to the tyrants, misogynists, and terrorists of the world for America's stand for its liberal values. The Palestinians weren't kicked out of Israel in 1948; they ran out. Those Palestinians who stayed became Israeli citizens with opportunities that far exceeded their previous lives and those of the ones who ran to live in deplorable conditions in refugee camps run by Arab states that did not want to accept the Palestinians in their countries. The Palestinians have never shown any ability to govern themselves effectively and have succumbed to corrupt and ruthless regimes and terrorism. I have no sympathy for them.
I learned from a recent history of the area going back to the 1920's that in the late 30's the most prominent Arabs residing there were fed up with those constantly attacking the Jews, that they moved their businesses and possessions to other Arab countries, approximately 40,000 in all. Naturally those Arabs who remained suffered from the diminished economic activity.
I only just learned how Israel became Israel and what the facts are behind this so-called "occupation." Years ago, my mother, who was an indexer, worked on a series of books that chronicled Israeli attacks on Palestine. She told me that after indexing this, it was difficult to talk with her lifelong friend, whose daughters live in Israel, about Israel. My mother really ought to know better. In a heated debate with a Russian Jew, two decades ago now, my partner argued on the side of the Palestinians, with no knowledge of what I just learned about how Israel came to be. So there you have it. The prevailing narrative is difficult to -- as the de-colonizers say -- "dismantle."
On that note, it's these false narratives that need to be dismantled and de-colonized, as these narratives have colonized people's brains and turned them into card-carrying useful idiots.
Cases in point: two ostensibly "educated" persons have challenged me online when I post information about what's truly going on with "trans rights." How kids are falling off a cliff into this, led by a corrupt Pied Piper. These people come after me as if I am "anti-trans." These are grown adults. I'm posting essays by self-proclaimed Progressive parents whose kids aren't even gay, describing how this cult took over their kids' minds. The estrangement. The mastectomies. One of these two puberty blocked his kid. If he did read my posts, I cannot comprehend how he could label me "conservative" and "anti-trans." When I asked why he put the word "academic" in quotation marks when describing Dr. Jordan Peterson, he said: "He has pre-historic views on sex" -- "which probably come from his own personal problems." Clearly this guy believes that "academics" base their opinions on conjecture and secondary sources, because no one who has actually listened to Peterson could say that about him.
My point is, people aren't just poorly informed. They are WILLFULLY POORLY INFORMED. Cause and effect has left the building. "Educated" means INDOCTRINATED. There is an EMOTIONAL side, and then there's the side that bases its opinions on credible sources.
Matt Walsh provided the truth behind the death of Matthew Shepard the other day. Shepard, he says, was not murdered because he was gay. He was murdered by GAY MEN because he got into a bad drug deal. He'd even been sexually involved with one of his murderers. Walsh went on to say that most "leftist" narratives are about VICTIMS. So there you have it. They create victims, and they have created a vicious religion that -- if it could get by with it -- would behave like HAMAS. And frankly, the transgender believers DO behave like terrorists.
It's one and the same, how these haters are fertilized. Now how to get them to see the light?
Not sure what "false narrative" you're describing about the founding of Israel. The Jews were always there. And in 1948, the nascent state of Israel was attacked by the armies of several Arab countries and barely survived. Had the Arabs succeeded, the "final solution" would have been complete - at least in that part of the world.
Correct. But no one learns that history. They hear the Arabs were fine and happy till the Jews came along and took all their land. What people don’t learn is that when Jews began moving to the region from Europe in the late 1800s and early 1900s there was almost no one there. It was dessert with a few cities interspersed. When they began buying land people laughed that anyone would want it at all.
The Jewish National Fund was created for the specific purpose of buying land from willing Arab owners. Much of that land had been owned by Arabs who resided in Egypt. Since the British used the land title system then in existence in England, it is easy to trace title to property purchased by Jews in Israel. The Bedouin and Arabs who did not reside in cities were not use to legally owning land. The Bedouin were wanderers. Their own beliefs do not include permanent residences. Anyone familiar with the Negev see examples of this.
How to get them to see the light? I think that's truly impossible. A generation of idiots. Soft minds who disdain fact & only know emotion. I have zero patience or forgiveness for any of them or any of their causes.
Good question RSA! I taught college before and right after 9/11. I didn't change my approach, but I saw others freak out and go all "moral equivalency" in their approach. I also had many Ivy League friends w/ I used to argue about relativism w/. They were totally indoctrinated. I don't know where and when it began, but I'm old enough to remember family arguments , and MSM discussions during the Vietnam era. Even w/ the strong feelings on opposite sides- most people seemed to be able to be relatively civil and not resort to calling each other Nazis. and when the radical left started hi-jacking, kidnapping (Patty Hearst!) and blowing up buildings "by any means necessary"- most people could identify that this behavior was WRONG and against humanity. We've come a LONG way from that place and time. To quote The Orange Man- "SAD!"
This is to me is the result of years of brainwashing by the main stream media. Which constantly demonized Israel and presented Palestinians as victims. While I do agree that before this event, I did think there was truth to both sides. There was the issue with the expanding Israeli settlements in the West Bank. And I had no doubt about the deep rooted anti semitism that Israel faced from its neighbours. And even if Israel did try to negotiate in good faith for a two state solution, its enemies wanted a total annihilation of Israel. BUT there is no grey area in this current conflict, this is black and white. I tragic to see how people can support this barbarity!!
Israeli settlements take less than 2% of the area of the west Bank and they have been practically frozen in terms of the territories they occupy for many years. This issue has been blown out of all proportion by the mass media and even many pro Israeli people buy it. In some of these settlements such as Hebron and Nablus, there was a large Jewish population up until 1948 when the area was captured by Jordan and the Jews were ethnically cleansed from there. The Jews came back after the 6 day war in 1967 but somehow this time it was illegal occupation for them to live in the very same places. While I strongly oppose some of the settlements and recognize a very problematic behavior of some of the settlers towards the Palestinians, I fail to see what moral principle is used in saying that Jews should not be allowed to live on Hebron, Nablus and e.g. the Jewish quarter of Jerusalem, which crazily is also considered occupied.
If Israel were to pull out of every single settlement in Judea and Samaria they would be no closer to knowing peace than they were after pulling out settlements in Gaza and giving the subhumans "self rule". These are not rational people. They can not be reasoned with. The only thing they comprehend is blind hatred and the barbarism which it inspires. And which much of the world is celebrating and encouraging.
Regarding Jerusalem, why is it that this is a holy city for the world's three major monotheistic faiths, yet only one -- and the youngest one at that -- claims sole ownership and control?
Thank you for the clarity about the West Bank
Can I have 2% of your house?
No. But if somehow you ended up there, I will not come killing your children and raping your women, and I will not wage war on you for 70 years.
No could probably stopped at "No.
Israel doesn't kill any civilians, children, etc. Bus settlers in with IDF protection to take farms, homes, etc. while the owners are gone, or allow armed settlers to burn down communities, etc.
Luckily, there have never been an massscres of Palestinian civilians in those 70 years.
Now, Hamas went too far. And Israel will probably wipe out the Palestinians to that person. But it didn't happen for "no reason at all!" Just like Israel's response.
As I've always said, both sides are trash. Entire identities wrapped up their respective fairy tale books.
A friend's son who fought in Gaza in a previous war (I think 2008, after Hamas had seized power) was sent to a building before it was to be blown up, to make sure it was clear. On the roof they found dozens of Palestinian civilians who had been forced up there and locked in by Hamas, to serve as human shields so Israel wouldn't destroy the building - since Hamas knows the care Israel takes to avoid civilian casualties. The soldiers risked their lives to save these Arab civilians. You won't hear this true story in the media, though. I wonder why.
...so many stories like this and so much Palestinian propaganda that the world believes.
Hmmm.....you would think the IDF would record those types of things for evidence. Or at least Haaretz or the Times of Israel would report it. Interesting. A lot of buildings are being blown up now, but there's no Israeli troops in the area checking?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTigMnDFcsA
https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/17733an/israeli_settler_shoots_unarmed_palestinian_at/
I am not aware of instances of "bussing settlers with IDF protection to take farms , homes, etc. while the owners are gone". Would be glad to see references. What is for sure is that Israel does not intentionally target women in children like Hamas do, and in fact go to huge lengths, including risking the lives of their own soldiers, to avoid them. Unfortunately with Hamas being embedded with the civilian population, and with the huge density of population in Gaza, it is impossible to avoid loss of civilian life.
Hamas, Hezbollah, etc. use their own citizens (women, children, etc) as human shields and always have. They put their headquarters in hospitals and their supplies in schools. Then, when Israel goes to destroy their ammunition -- they can say "look how many babies the IDF killed." As Golda Meir said years ago, "Peace will come when the Arabs love their children more than they hate us." I don't see that coming any time soon.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/06/15/middleeast/huwara-west-bank-settler-attack-cmd-intl/index.html
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/belief/2009/oct/29/israeli-military-settlers-idf
No, refering to massacres that had nothing to do with Hamas. Quite a few.
Who says they don't intentionally target? Who is telling you that information?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cFmh5VJh8-A
https://theintercept.com/2021/07/15/israel-army-settlers-palestinians-killed/
https://reliefweb.int/report/occupied-palestinian-territory/mideast-settlers-push-palestinians-sleep-street
https://www.hrw.org/reports/2001/israel/hebron6-07.htm
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KNqozQ8uaV8
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gXYdVhgk3gw
Both sides are trash? And you have always said this? That speaks very poorly of you.
Yep. Both sides target civilians.
Both sides use "human shields," etc.
I think the majority of the brainwashing occurred - and still occurs - at the universities. Beginning in the late 1960’s, it became fashionable for academia and the intelligentsia to see oppressors and oppressed in every conflict and to choose the side of those that best portrayed themselves as oppressed. This is the stew in which Barack Hussein Obama was marinated, and why he hated/hates Israel . . . His days at Columbia and Yale in the 70’s and early 80’s.
That vile poster with the hang glider distributed on a state college campus pretty much says it all. And this is the womb of woke where everyone is supposed to be ultra sensitive to not offend any "marginalized" group. Slaughtered Jewish women and children are apparently exempt.
Then these brainwashed brats expect us the taxpayers to pick up the tab for four years of partying and miseducation. You almost want to feel sorry for them.
Not even close.
Totally! And the Ivies lead the way!! And we have all been encouraged to celebrate victims and embrace victim mentality. When I read the quotes from the 17 yr. old native Puerto Rican girl (recent convert to Islam!) I said "we're done for!" For Chrissakes- why on earth would a Puerto Rican (young woman) want to become a muslim? Victim intersectionality, I guess!
You are right on point with this. In the last 15 years, it’s felt like you were some ignorant, backwards Christian to want to see anything redeeming or good about Israel. That too came from the universities. I was there.
MSM May influence older people but I doubt the young watch it. I think their news sources are Facebook, Twitter YouTube etc. which are universal sources, some curated and filtered and some not. I think it makes sense, now, to look at those sources of truth and lies as the main influence now.
The young may not watch MSM, but their teachers, going all the way back to primary school, certainly did.
A bit of assumption I think. Young people pay attention to each other, especially in high school and college, not really their teachers. Grade school kids are influenced mostly by parents then peers then teachers. Unless you live with teachers you don’t really know what their sources of information is.
Personally, I don't support it, but when you record numbers of Palestinian children killed by IDF & settlers, when the IDF escorts settlers in to take homes, farms etc. while the owners are away, allows them to burn villages, etc. that might piss people off.
Really? Innocent Palestinian children deliberately murdered in their homes, not for example while firebombing Israeli cars, stabbing Israeli citizens or getting tragically caught in a firefight between Israeli troops and Hamas terrorists?
You mean, like Mohammad Al Dura? Eventually proven to be murdered by his own side so as to frame Israel?
Uhuh.
Don’t feed the troll Liora
Palestinian children get killed by Israeli snipers for walking too close to the fence.
IDF works with settlers to take homes, land, burn villages, stand idly by why settlers attack and murder Palestinian families, including "children and the elderly." That kind of stuff tends to piss people off.
Plenty of massacres/violence on both sides. But there's also good people on both sides.
What Hamas did is terrible. Israel's response will be terrible. Judging by their language and actions, so far - I doubt there will be anyone left alive.
If that's the case. Cool. Makes no difference to me. But this didn't happen "for no reason at all!""
Hell, maybe it might be for the best to wipe out the whole area, so maybe we can all finally quit talking abou it.
Both sides suck, IMO. Total identity wrapped up in their respective fairy tale books.
I would love to see proof of your claims re Israeli snipers from legitimate i.e. not Jew-hating sources.
There's definitely a big problem with the current fanatical rightwing government re several hundred violent Jewish extremists that are tacitly allowed to wreak havoc in certain areas iof Judea/Samaria, and these actions are opposed by a most Israeli citizens. But the majority of supposed atrocities are simply modern day blood libels. How many civilians did the US mistakenly kill while fighting Al Qaeda and the Taliban, who btw were never referred to as "militants" or "freedom fighters"? The 3"D"s of anti-Semitism are on full display., which is obvious to anyone with a modicum of intelligence and rational thought.
You are well within your right to not care less about the Jewish indigenous ties to their ancient homeland, or 2000 years of genocide, as long as you refrain from parroting the same old excuses to justify Jew hatred.
http://www.dci.plo.ps/en/article/13879/October-31,-2019---Middle-East-Monitor-Israel-sniper-who-killed-Palestinian-child-given-month%E2%80%99s-community-service
https://www.moroccoworldnews.com/2014/07/135781/israeli-sniper-admits-killing-13-palestinian-kids-in-one-day
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2018/apr/10/video-appears-show-cheers-israeli-sniper-shoots-palestinian
My "favorite" one: https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2004/nov/24/israel
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/politics/2-year-old-palestinian-shot-by-israeli-troops-in-west-bank-dies-of-wounds
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2019-07-21/ty-article/.premium/the-protest-dispersed-then-an-israeli-sniper-shot-a-9-year-old-boy-in-the-head/0000017f-e3ff-d9aa-afff-fbffde890000
TFP: "Israel just sits on the couch existing and petting kittens, never doing anything to anyone and gets constantly attacked for no reason at all!"
Person: Well, uh...actually -
TFP: JEW HATER!!!
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12283431/amp/CCTV-shows-Palestinian-boy-shot-dead-Israeli-sniper-unarmed.html
https://www.jpost.com/israel/idfs-ethics-guru-slams-high-court-ban-on-human-shields
I tend to give a half-hearted eye roll to youthful protesters. They have limited exposure to the ways of the world, are merely a year or two removed from “that’s not fair Mom!!” We can’t expect much grasp of complexity.
These older folks aggravate the bejesus out of me. Some glitch in maturation has occurred. As individuals they are very frustrating to converse with- more close minded than the youth in fact. Nothing that contradicts their worldview can be processed.
Frankly I never thought we would see a protest supporting the massacre of 800+ people in the USA. Try that in a small town.
I used to think the same of youthful protesters, but no more. They are the ones who burned buildings, destroyed businesses, threw bombs, looted, and tore down statues after George Floyd. Multiple people were assaulted and/or killed. They need to be thrown in jail for their behavior instead of getting a nice little pat on the head from the commie professors who taught them lies for a worldview. The media is 100% complicit & also to blame. The old people protesting are just idiots-----I see this all the time, leftists who cannot accept reality is different than what they thought, and thus they shut out truth over & over. Your comment is spot on----"nothing that contradicts their worldview can be processed." I cannot imagine this behavior is tolerated in ANY SIZE town or city-----but courtesy of the Left, here we are.
What's scariest is people who are very smart in most ways, who as you said, can't accept that reality isn't what they've come to believe and completely shut out any world view or opinion that's not their own. It's maddening to me!
Agreed. Underlying this of course is an eagerness to showcase one’s hatred of Jews. People don’t know much about Israel but they know it’s a Jewish state. That’s all they need to know. “Go back where they came from” - where is that? There’s nowhere to go back to. Todays Israelis descend from people who escaped death camps and muslim countries where they were persecuted.
This is messaging - Jews aren’t welcome here or anywhere else.
People also don’t know how backwards the land and (most) of its Arab inhabitants were when Jews returned to present day Israel in 3 large waves between about 1900 and just before/after WW2. Arabs sold a lot of swamp land to Jews in those days (for gold) thinking it could never be cultivated. Well thanks to a lot of Jewish effort, kibbutzs and Aussie eculyptus trees — this lands was made green again. The land would not have prospered without Jew elbow grease. That is fact. Arabs had allowed that land sit undeveloped under Ottoman Empire for nearly 500 years. Arabs at the time also didn’t like that Jews treated their women as equals, example might be taken up by Arab women. The Pograms of Europe (and especially those in Russia/Poland) drove the Zionist movement, and return to present day Israel. And why not if all the Gentiles around you are periodically tee’ing off to rape, kill and mutilate those communities (Pale of Settlement). Get out and go where it’s safer. Now this past week, Hamas acts in similar way as past Pograms in Europe. Kids and many adults don’t know the history, just cover their ears and yell La-La-La
so true, and yes very reminiscent of the horrors of europe pre- and during WWII. Horrific.
In the Middle Ages even the peasants knew enough to scream at Jews "go back to Palestine where you came from" as they attacked them.
The glitch in maturity was the 1960's that glorified youth culture and resisted growing up for as long as possible. It's still a problem. Adults able to think of consequences and complexities and make hard decisions are increasingly difficult to find.
The 60s were only the start of the abdication of responsibility to those least qualified to exercise it. The trend has accelerated ever since; Ms Thune by her own sniveling little self being sufficient proof that this is so.
Joe Biden will, under threat of force, confiscate my money to pay for the elite College tuition for these "youthful protestors". I don't give them an eye roll. They are evil, as are everyone who enables them.
"the line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being"
Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
This is not the same NY as 2001. We’ve been inundated with foreigners who despise the US and America for twenty years but use our morals and high ideas to keep us hostage. I think Jews should take a hard long look at who is saying what and PLEASE REMEMBER next time you vote democrat. Black Lives Matter and black activists are not your friends. They deal in skin color and seperate themselves accordingly. We stand shoulder to shoulder with our friends in Israel who are completely innocent! But please please remember how it feels to be called guilty and bad no matter what the truth is like those of us on the right. We are not racist, we are not Islamaphobic, we aren’t Nazis. Most of us just want to be left alone and not pay half our wage to the govt. However I am appalled at the silence from Hollywood, Universities, the media, corporations. It’s frightening. They are all sheep.
You are exactly right, Rachel. We Jews have to recognize that the Democrat Party is no longer our friend. My husband and I are trying to spread the word to our families and friends but it is incredible to see how hard it is for some people to get out of the Republican hating mindset.
This is so true. I can’t tell you how many of my Jewish friends are shaking their heads and wringing their hands and guess who they will vote for next November?
Also note - BLM has never hidden which side they’re on. One of their many agendas is the so called liberation of Palestine. They are only getting started and they have the time and ability to organize the hell out of it.
BLM is not the Democratic Party. I think the realization who the Palestinians are (and have been for 75 years) is shocking to an ignorant public...........I had a discussion with my 21 year old son a couple years ago about his generations support for the Palestinians.............he had no idea of the history of the region.
BLM is more the democrat party than not. Look at San Fran Nan with her kinte cloth leading the kneeling of the dems in the Capitol. The democrats do not condemn the racism of black lives matter, but elevate it.
The democrats are not America’s friend. People need to wake up.
do you think she was buried with it
You should tell him about some of the massacres
Take a long hard read at this massacre profassface: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12616463/holocaust-Babies-beheaded-40-children-shot-dead-families-burnt-alive.html
Take a long hard read at this.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12283431/amp/CCTV-shows-Palestinian-boy-shot-dead-Israeli-sniper-unarmed.html
Take a long hard read at this
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tantura
Take a long hars read at this.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailysabah.com/mideast/2014/07/31/idf-sniper-admits-to-murdering-13-gazan-children-on-instagram/amp
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jun/16/black-lives-matter-palestinian-struggle-us-left
So?
People are free to support the causes they want.
I gave him a full history...................
I kinda doubt that Dave ;)
Actually, I heard some BLM folks were actually involved.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jun/16/black-lives-matter-palestinian-struggle-us-left
I heard some BLM members were actually involved in the attack.
1-800 Blame-A-Nigger
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/10/opinion/israel-hamas-protests-left.html
Nah. Both sides kill women, children, etc.
Palestinians use bombers.
Israel uses IDF backed settlers.
Both trash.
Deserve each other.
https://i.headtopics.com/images/2023/10/9/nypost/most-of-nyc-s-democratic-socialist-pols-refuse-to--most-of-nyc-s-democratic-socialist-pols-refuse-to--DFEA4B66F60921C862C3F202EABE57ED.webp
So?
People have a right to peaceably assemble. I didn't go. Not my scene.
Palenstinians march chanting "Death to Israel."
Israelis march chanting "Death to Arabs."
Day that ends in "Y"
I have never heard an Israeli saying "Death to Arabs." Hamas declares "Death to Jews" not just in their parades and demonstrations, but in their charter. It's their purpose.
It shouldn't be incredible, Estra - when the GOP in the House allow the children in their rabid right wing vote against their own spineless Speaker, which, by the way, will hinder new military aid to Israel. Which they will need. Now the place is rudderless when votes are becoming, how should I say, VERY important?
It shouldn't be incredible when the GOP in the Senate is getting in the way of confirming approx three hundred senior military personnel in leadership positions from taking up their posts - or that two of the most important ambassadorships, Israel and Egypt (and other Arab states) remain unfilled since they cannot be confirmed due to GOP holds.
The Democrats could be a better friend to Israel, if the Republicans themselves would do the same.
foreignpolicy.com/2023/10/09/theres-no-american-ambassador-in-israel/
It’s literally been 4 days. Funny you think that’s bad but are silent with Biden and democrat house senate releasing 280 million to Palestinian militants in 2021 as soon as they were sworn in and 6 billion Iran? Seriously do you think we are stupid? Israel doesn’t need aid they need our full support and Biden to stop taking sides with terrorists. PS Rabid right? This is the shit I’m talking about- the only rabid wing I see are the free Palestine movement on the left flashing Nazi symbols
Two U.S. carrier groups on their way to Lebanon..
They are not "sheep." Don't let them off the hook.
By remaining silent they are complicit in this barbarity. Did we learn nothing from Nuremburg?
Next time you vote for a Democrat see what they say about the Jews first. It always amazes me, that Jews in America support Democrats who hate Israel. Clinton may have been the last D President who wholeheartedly supported Israel.
Mentally they are all sheep, but aren't they really all wolves?
Yes, I agree.
Red, white, and green on the Empire State Building are from the Italian flag. Monday was a day of pride for Italians because it use to be Columbus Day. Gov Hochul wore a red, white, and green ribbon for a parade celebrating Italians and not Palestinians!
Gov Huchol spoke with courage against the rallys in support of the Palestinians referring to them as "abhorrent and morally repugnant." This bald and bold statement contrast against the very sly sentiments of "Pray for the Jews killed and for those who had no other choice but violence" and other softer shades of hate that are coming from many politicians, celebrities, and the media. The chanting protestors are absolutely as despicable as Gov Huchol stated, but they are like hissing snakes which declare that they are dangerous. How much more dangerous are the subtle statements that softly and very skillfully condemn the Jews for their own massacre and praise Hamas for their "noble struggle"?
Not a fan of Hochul but kudos to her for doing what any sane politician should do. And which, only a decade ago, would not have been noteworthy. Progressives have taken New York backward into the Dark Ages.
Understand your sentiment. When Newsom found the courage to condemn Hamas and state that he stood with Israel, I also applauded. Ironic that statements which seem so common sense, condemning the massacre of innocents, is now heroic.
Also applauding Larry Summers for his strong criticism of the silence of Harvard’s admin along with the 31Harvard clubs.
Yeah. A copy editor should have caught that. I don’t doubt Olivia & Francesca know it’s the Italian flag but it reads ambiguously.
Or perhaps it’s a subtle dig at Empire State’s PC gyrations.
The Palestinian flag is black, white, and green with a red triangle. The Italian flag is orange,* green, and white. (Erase orange and insert red …fear those leprechauns!) I still stand with:
Wish the writers would have concluded with noting that France’s Eiffel Tower was blue and displaying Israel’s flag as a sign of solidarity with Israel and wondered where the US displayed their support for Israel.
"The Italian flag is orange, green, and white. "
I fear furious leprechauns bearing shillelaghs are heading your way JoAnne
Italian flag is red-white-and green-- no orange!
Think of a caprices salad!
Click the link.
I did. That’s the point.
The link says the ESB was honoring Indigenous People's Day. The piece is correct.
I was unaware the indigenous people’s movement was represented by the Italian flag.
Happy Columbus day
Words are inadequate to describe this horror. If the United States does not stand up to this massacre, it's over. I'm elderly and I will be gone before the world ends in complete corruption and disintegration, but I'm mourning for the Jewish people and the terrible, terrible things that have been done. And I thank the Free Press, just for being as good as it is. Work on, good people, for bringing the truth to anyone who will listen.
Thank you for yet another brilliant breakdown of the hypocrisy and antisemitism in our very own country. My daughter lives in Manhattan and attends John Jay College. She has seen the the drastic increase in antisemitism. One of her first classes three years ago a professor said that Hamas was not a terrorist group. He response was let me share irrefutable evidence that its was. He apologized. She has been shocked as am I to find the lack of critical thinking in our college classrooms.
This is a reveal and unravel for the Jews as to who their enemies are and in many cases its their neighbor. They needed to open their eyes and note who saying what. This is a time to rethink their allegiances. As for the FBI they may want to pay attention as to what is being said at these rallies and how many Americans may justify crimes against humanity to further a political cause. They may find themselves unraveling the next terrorist attack on US.
We also may want to pay attention to how America is often called a colonizer. While I am not surprised it’s important to know how people really feel and think. To me that is the power of free speech is allowing the enemy to reveal itself. And we are seeing it before out eyes. Americans advocating for murder, and rape of unarmed citizens.
I posted on my FB and instagram what constitutes crimes against humanity. I also said the Jews are not exempt from crimes against humanity. The current characterization of Jews mimics the same dehumanization that the Nazi’s promoted.
Thank you for another brilliant article. These are very discouraging times. I am encouraged by your work!
“As for the FBI they may want to pay attention as to what is being said at these rallies and how many Americans may justify crimes against humanity to further a political cause. They may find themselves unraveling the next terrorist attack on US”
Sorry but the FBI has other priorities and will be tied up at least until the 2024 presidential election. According to an article printed in Newsweek (https://www.newsweek.com/2023/10/13/exclusive-fbi-targets-trump-followers-2024-election-nears-1831836.html),
“The federal government believes that the threat of violence and major civil disturbances around the 2024 U.S. presidential election is so great that it has quietly created a new category of extremists that it seeks to track and counter: Donald Trump’s army of MAGA followers.”
“From the president down, the Biden administration has presented Trump and MAGA as an existential threat to American democracy and talked up the risk of domestic terrorism and violence associated with the 2024 election campaign”.
It is of paramount importance that Joe Biden be re-elected. Just ask the Ayatollah, Hamas, Hezbollah and the sleeper cells that have likely crossed our southern border to organize and incite the army of cretins parading around NYC and other US cities wanting to kill more Jews.
If they hadn't (thankfully) been so damn stupid as to get killed and caught- the Tzsarnaev bros. might have been in the crowds in Times Sq. or across from Israeli embassy. I'm sure some of their brothers (and sisters) in arms were representing!
"To me that is the power of free speech is allowing the enemy to reveal itself." 100%
Thanks for your comment Ana. I failed to see just how much antisemitism has spread throughout much of academia. I failed to see just how much antisemitism has spread through the legislative and executive branches of our government. I thought we had agreed that “hating Jews” was evil. I was wrong. This cold deliberate lack of empathy for these Jewish victims is diabolical. I am not Jewish, but have relationships with Jews of all ages. I love them all, but can’t understand why they align themselves with democrats and are repulsed by the Republican Party. I now wonder, since I was so blind to the volume of antisemitism now on display, that maybe my Jewish friends, with their allegiance to the Democrat Party, are blinded by the propaganda that party cleverly appeased them with. It is disheartening to hear that you send your daughter to college where your hopes are for to advance her thinking, to explore ideas and begin to find her place in life and she meets the seeds of indoctrination in one of her first classes. I’m glad she felt strong enough to challenge him. Unfortunately, many others are not like her and their minds are snatched up and programmed by this intentional social training. I feel this is the root of it. These aren’t yesterdays democrats. This is the evolvement of people hell bent (excuse the pun) on destroying freedom of everything. I cant understand the support for them.
I do understand why they are cautious with Republicans. Hitler was the extreme right. They associate right-wing with Hitler. I do know a lot of Jews that are Republicans. My husband being one of them. Agreed these aren't yesterday's Democrats I agree. This all makes Bill Clinton policies conservative.
Well this is the reason that debates are shut down at schools that is a deliberate strategy. The fruit of a debate is to arrive better choices not just to persuade on your perspective. Perhaps in the exchange there will be new ideas and perspecitves that are better. This is what she shared with one of the top professors and major researchers in the world in her field of Forensic Psychology. She shared that she thought the college was were you come to exchange and discover new perspectives not have a single perspective forced on you. She also shared with him that why must everyone succumb to the emotional meltdown of students who cannot defend their position and as a result the debate must be shutdown. I am never loose hope but we must continue to promote free speech and exchanges of information such as this so that we can make a difference.
You are blessed with a wise and sensible daughter. Thanks for responding.
“Americans advocating for murder, and rape of unarmed citizens.” Yes! A million times, this! What in the holy hell is wrong with these “protesters”?!? The twisted minds that can get behind such atrocities. It’s sickening!
He apologized? And she didn't get cancelled? Must have been a newbie.
Oh no not a newbie, he could not refute the information.
Thanks Ana, good post.
This going to be a difficult needle to thread. Although there is a high degree of overlap not all anti-Zionism is antisemitism.
Much as anti-CRT folks resent being called white supremacists it is a subtle argument that doesn’t lend itself to social media boards or sound bites.
I agree and understand.
We weren’t completely unified; there were islamists who celebrated in the streets in NYC and in London on 9/11 but this fact was memory holed and even denied because it might cause anti-Muslim sentiment. The disgusting rewrite of our history in order to project an alternate reality of blissful multicultural success and diversity in a leftist utopia. The next chant after “gas the Jews” is always “death to America” but yet we never see it coming.
Seeing the pro-Palestine protests has been eye opening. I find these US residents' brazen displays of overwhelming support for rapes, kidnappings, and torture of civilians extremely troubling. There is something seriously wrong with our society. That they feel emboldened to act in this way and that the rest of us have no effective way to tell them that their conduct offends our norms and values.
They don’t care. They have been taught this in our institutions. This is progressive Marxist rot from the inside out.
I was disgusted by the videos of the people celebrating in NYC. My first inclination was demand that we gather them up and ship them back to their own country, as they openly made statements of disdain for America!
We should be shipping them to their precious "Palestine" and see how they like Hamas then. They are all a bunch of cowards. I would happily trade these sickos to Hamas in an exchange of hostages.
I'd love to know if they are legal residents or illegal. If illegal they should be deported now. If they are merely residents, not citizens, they should be checked out, and if they cause problems, they can go back to their Palestinian Paradise under Hamas and Hezbollah. I noticed there were no women on the streets of Gaza while the men were running around abusing corpses.
Yes, could they rape, murder, and torture? One wonders.
Exactly. It is not wrong to wonder. May be necessary.
I know! I'm getting triggered!
Every one of these human pieces of garbage is a terrorist sympathizer. They worship murder, rape and depravity on a scale unimaginable to decent souls. They hate you, your children and everyone and thing you love.
They are the enemy. There is no temporizing. Treat them accordingly. Stand with Israel and for decency. Crush the lunatic left, once and for all.
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Just saying that after a cursory glance at the Times of Gaza and Wafa - Palestinian news agency - I feel the need to report that neither news site even acknowledges that this current "war" was precipitated by an incursion into Israel by Hamas members who did a killing, raping, kidnapping spree. It didn't happen. Nothing.
Only the Israeli "Occupation" forces (occupation of Gaza ceased in 2005) bombing and maiming Palestinian children. That is all the news fit to print.
At first I just kept scrolling to look for the reports, as I was curious to see how they spun the events, but in fact, they just didn't report them. The aggression was wholly one-sided.
So under this kind of total disconnect with reality, how does one reason with these people? How do you foster potential statehood? There is nobody home. Just the fantasy narrative.
It is brutal. There are human beings under those bombs. But don't pretend that this came out of nowhere.
Please understand the two state solution was abandoned long ago. Hamas won’t allow it. They want a one state solution - Palestine.
How does one reason with barbarians who rape, abduct, and murder innocent women and children? I'd say at the point of a gun.
Exactly Lara. Thank you for posting this. I wish you would spread it more widely because this isn't widely known! This is what Israel has to deal with daily. There is no moral equity between the two. Palestinian children (and in fact, most Arabs) are taught to hate Jews from the crib. It's ingrained into every fiber of their being. And the scary thing is that even in the US so many believe the Palestinian and Muslim propaganda — lies that people now recite as fact (I'm seeing them posted all over social media right now).
The question is, who is listening? I rarely engage with people on social media because most people have the narrative that they committed to, at whatever point, and don't bother them with the facts.
With all the atrocities coming to light - 40 babies found slaughtered and burned, some beheaded, women raped and maimed before being executed, etc. , there is no need to conflate Hamas with the Palestinian cause, and yet this is a widely accepted position. Why?!?
Gazans have been rioting against Hamas in Gaza because they have brought such ruin to the area. But Hamas rules with an iron hand and the protests were shut right down.
This problem is further exacerbated by the Palestinians themselves because they can't or won't speak up and disavow Hamas.
And the cruelty of the West, by glossing over these realities, or justifying them boggles the mind.
And just for (horrible) fun, anyone reading my comment can go check out the Times of Gaza or Wafa, the Palestinian news site, and see that there is no mention of the attack on israel that precipitated this current bombing campaign. There is only Israel, the aggressor, bombing little children.
We are at war with Eurasia; we have always been at war with Eurasia...
Not unlike the American press in many ways. Disgusting.
It is incredibly troubling that we have a sizable portion of the American populace who do not understand the definition of ally. Our ally is Israel. Whatever retaliatory measures Israel decides to take to the gruesome and unprovoked attacks—we should support because that’s what an ally does. Everyone who wants to debate the long history of Israeli/Palestinian relations is welcome to do so. However, none of that changes the fact that our allegiance and loyalty is to Israel because they are our ally.
Israel started as a small partition. The Jews purchased malarial infested land and developed it. The Arabs didn’t. The Arabs waged war multiple times only to lose. Guess what? Losers in war tend to lose land. Every time land was negotiated for peace, the Israelis got terrorism. Israel has now become a strong modern country which makes it now an oppressor in many eyes. One thing the Arabs have is a great PR apparatus but look underneath the covers and you have nothing but barbaric feudalism.
Do you really think that the PR apparatus would be effective absent the underlying and not-so-underlying anti antisemitism? I don't.
The antisemitism definitely greases the PR machine.
As for the Israelis, he said, they should “go back to where they came from.”
Ummm....teacher, I have a question.
Exactly
If the billions of dollars sent to aid Palestinians had been used appropriately, Gaza would be a beautiful and safe place with prosperity for all. Those that see, see. Those that don’t never will.
Hell, if the Arabs took what the Jews left for them in 2005, they’d be prosperous. Instead, they destroyed everything and continue to live in teeming poverty and filth.
Gaza was beautiful, with lush flower nurseries and many beautiful communities in it when the Israelis left 20 years ago…..and what did the militants do as their first act when that happened……they burned anything the Jews had built there, the nurseries, the homes, the communities.
Israel, since its inception, has been under attack, directly by its Arab neighbors and Islamic extremists as well as the well-off, well-educated liberal elites who abhor the success of the democracy created by the Jews in the midst of Moslem tyrannies. These are the same people who hate the United States, who apologize to the tyrants, misogynists, and terrorists of the world for America's stand for its liberal values. The Palestinians weren't kicked out of Israel in 1948; they ran out. Those Palestinians who stayed became Israeli citizens with opportunities that far exceeded their previous lives and those of the ones who ran to live in deplorable conditions in refugee camps run by Arab states that did not want to accept the Palestinians in their countries. The Palestinians have never shown any ability to govern themselves effectively and have succumbed to corrupt and ruthless regimes and terrorism. I have no sympathy for them.
and have kept those Palestinian "refugees" living as refugees as pawns in their game.
I learned from a recent history of the area going back to the 1920's that in the late 30's the most prominent Arabs residing there were fed up with those constantly attacking the Jews, that they moved their businesses and possessions to other Arab countries, approximately 40,000 in all. Naturally those Arabs who remained suffered from the diminished economic activity.
Very interesting.
I only just learned how Israel became Israel and what the facts are behind this so-called "occupation." Years ago, my mother, who was an indexer, worked on a series of books that chronicled Israeli attacks on Palestine. She told me that after indexing this, it was difficult to talk with her lifelong friend, whose daughters live in Israel, about Israel. My mother really ought to know better. In a heated debate with a Russian Jew, two decades ago now, my partner argued on the side of the Palestinians, with no knowledge of what I just learned about how Israel came to be. So there you have it. The prevailing narrative is difficult to -- as the de-colonizers say -- "dismantle."
On that note, it's these false narratives that need to be dismantled and de-colonized, as these narratives have colonized people's brains and turned them into card-carrying useful idiots.
Cases in point: two ostensibly "educated" persons have challenged me online when I post information about what's truly going on with "trans rights." How kids are falling off a cliff into this, led by a corrupt Pied Piper. These people come after me as if I am "anti-trans." These are grown adults. I'm posting essays by self-proclaimed Progressive parents whose kids aren't even gay, describing how this cult took over their kids' minds. The estrangement. The mastectomies. One of these two puberty blocked his kid. If he did read my posts, I cannot comprehend how he could label me "conservative" and "anti-trans." When I asked why he put the word "academic" in quotation marks when describing Dr. Jordan Peterson, he said: "He has pre-historic views on sex" -- "which probably come from his own personal problems." Clearly this guy believes that "academics" base their opinions on conjecture and secondary sources, because no one who has actually listened to Peterson could say that about him.
My point is, people aren't just poorly informed. They are WILLFULLY POORLY INFORMED. Cause and effect has left the building. "Educated" means INDOCTRINATED. There is an EMOTIONAL side, and then there's the side that bases its opinions on credible sources.
Matt Walsh provided the truth behind the death of Matthew Shepard the other day. Shepard, he says, was not murdered because he was gay. He was murdered by GAY MEN because he got into a bad drug deal. He'd even been sexually involved with one of his murderers. Walsh went on to say that most "leftist" narratives are about VICTIMS. So there you have it. They create victims, and they have created a vicious religion that -- if it could get by with it -- would behave like HAMAS. And frankly, the transgender believers DO behave like terrorists.
It's one and the same, how these haters are fertilized. Now how to get them to see the light?
Not sure what "false narrative" you're describing about the founding of Israel. The Jews were always there. And in 1948, the nascent state of Israel was attacked by the armies of several Arab countries and barely survived. Had the Arabs succeeded, the "final solution" would have been complete - at least in that part of the world.
Correct. But no one learns that history. They hear the Arabs were fine and happy till the Jews came along and took all their land. What people don’t learn is that when Jews began moving to the region from Europe in the late 1800s and early 1900s there was almost no one there. It was dessert with a few cities interspersed. When they began buying land people laughed that anyone would want it at all.
The Jewish National Fund was created for the specific purpose of buying land from willing Arab owners. Much of that land had been owned by Arabs who resided in Egypt. Since the British used the land title system then in existence in England, it is easy to trace title to property purchased by Jews in Israel. The Bedouin and Arabs who did not reside in cities were not use to legally owning land. The Bedouin were wanderers. Their own beliefs do not include permanent residences. Anyone familiar with the Negev see examples of this.
The False Narrative is that they occupied the land. You know that.
The False Narrative is that they occupied the land. You know that.
How to get them to see the light? I think that's truly impossible. A generation of idiots. Soft minds who disdain fact & only know emotion. I have zero patience or forgiveness for any of them or any of their causes.
Sounds kind of emotional, no? Both sides, same coin type beat.
Good question RSA! I taught college before and right after 9/11. I didn't change my approach, but I saw others freak out and go all "moral equivalency" in their approach. I also had many Ivy League friends w/ I used to argue about relativism w/. They were totally indoctrinated. I don't know where and when it began, but I'm old enough to remember family arguments , and MSM discussions during the Vietnam era. Even w/ the strong feelings on opposite sides- most people seemed to be able to be relatively civil and not resort to calling each other Nazis. and when the radical left started hi-jacking, kidnapping (Patty Hearst!) and blowing up buildings "by any means necessary"- most people could identify that this behavior was WRONG and against humanity. We've come a LONG way from that place and time. To quote The Orange Man- "SAD!"