The most telling part of the podcast: The LEFT gave Kim Kardashian "a lot of shit" for dealing with President Trump in order to get Alice out of jail. So, for all the claptrap on race, incarceration, justice, The LEFT would have rather Alice rot than KK work with PDT and get her out. This is the epitome of politics in the now.
I respect you covering a range of topics but you let her off the hook way too much in this interview....you came across as very starstruck and "fan girling". Which is your right but perhaps beneath your usual hard hitting approach.
Life finds a way to consistently surprise you. And more often than not, the biggest surprises stem from misjudging people for being less than they appear.
This interview was so beneath you, Bari. I had never watched the Kardashian reality show and never heard Kim speak before, so I decided to have an open mind and listen to this interview. After doing so, I came to the conclusion that she is nearly as vapid as the stereotype of her suggests. And to top it off,, the interview was extremely BORING. Bari, you have built enormous goodwill with your subscribers because we trust your judgment and believe you to be a serious journalist. Please don't squander your reputation with more interviews like this one.
Kardashian, spawn of one of the men who loosed OJ Simpson back onto the world, is "famous for being famous."
Because she was famous, she cozied up[ to the most vile President in American history, because it suited them both. She wildly misrepresents the case of major drug kingpin Alice Johnson, because everyone in the media treats her as a pet.
When really she's a joke, someone who has repeatedly flunked the California "Baby Bar" designed to keep dilettantes like her out of an already dicey profession. (One I've practiced for 40 years as a trial lawyer)
A sad joke about a society in love with fame and the ability to do nothing.
Congratulations, Kim Kardashian, for passing the Baby Bar and for using your power to help reform the US criminal justice system. These are admirable projects for you during the second half of your life. I know your late father would be proud to learn his daughter is following in his footsteps.
I'd like to direct your attention to another serious issue in the criminal justice system, one that needs your help and expertise. You, of all women, are uniquely qualified due to your public platform, your tenacity, your courage, your willingness to take on controversial projects, your growing knowledge of the US legal system, your California citizenship, your family background, and your strong interest in protecting the rights of women, especially incarcerated women, the most powerless women in the US. If you became involved, you would help not only the incarcerated women of California, but incarcerated women throughout the US and in other countries, too.
This issue is California's SB132, the state bill that now allows any biological male inmate in a California jail or prison to self identify as the opposite sex and transfer into the women's facility where he will share a cell with female inmates. During the past 12 months, three hundred men, many with intact penises, have transferred into women's jails and prisons. There is absolutely no requirement that these biological men have undergone genital surgery, take female hormones, or even self present as the opposite sex. Some male inmates have cynically used SB132 to gain unfettered access to biological women. As you might expect, biological women inmates are terrified because most of these men are physically powerful and some have been convicted of violent crimes including murder, rape and child sexual abuse.
Some female inmates have already been beaten and raped by their biological male cellmates. The situation is so dire, the prison staff now routinely distributes condoms and instructions on how to secure an abortion to all biological women inmates. To add insult to injury, biological women inmates, relatively few of whom are in for violent offenses, are not allowed to complain about being locked in their cell with a potentially violent biological man. The women who do complain are labeled "transphobes" and are subjected to longer sentences. So these terrified women must suffer in silence.
But you, Kim Kardashian, can be the voice for these voiceless women. You can help restore women's private spaces in California's jails and prisons. You can help prevent California's abhorrent policy from becoming the law of the land. There are now approximately two million prisoners in the US, two hundred thousand of whom are biological women who would be at risk. You have the power and the platform to protect these women. To turn this unconscionable situation around.
There is absolutely no reason to place biological women at increased risk of beatings, rape, and pregnancy to protect a subcategory of biological men who could be protected in other ways. One men's prison in California has long had a separate section for gay men and men who claim to be the opposite sex. This facility was grandfathered in, even though it now violates California state law. There is no rational reason why we couldn't set up similar sections in every men's jail or prison throughout California and the rest of the country.
If you would like to learn more about this issue, please contact WoLF, the Women's Liberation Front, an organization that is fighting for women's rights, including the right to women's private spaces in jails and prisons. WoLF is now suing the CDCR (California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation) on behalf of four women inmates and the Women II Women advocacy group to restore single sex prisons in California. I know WoLF and the many thousands of biological women inmates in California would be eternally grateful for whatever help and support you can provide.
On the heels of the Amanda Knox piece, I am disappointed that Bari stooped to cover this particular celebrity. I found all KK's comments about good parenting to be quite fake.
I tried to listen, Bari, but just couldn’t follow. It is nice that she is for criminal justice reform. I can respect her for that—but other than that—I cannot care too much.
Well, I never expected this interview! I don't care much about KK one way or the other, but did admire the risk she took working with Trump on Alice Johnson and Criminal Justice Reform. I can also very much respect that while she became famous for being famous, she has done something real, and "good", with the opportunity.
On a tangent - this "cultural appropriation" stuff is bullshit, and the idea of being offended by someone taking ideas from "your culture" is simply ridiculous. As long as people have gathered in groups, they have shared their cultures.
Thanks for an interesting change of pace Bari; it was much better than I expected upon seeing the topic.
“There are a lot of people that deserve to be inside and that need to pay for the heinous crimes that they have done.”
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Good that she added this without being prompted. I do kinda wish she would say this part a little louder just because half the country believes that prisons are full of people who got 30 years for smelling like weed on spring break.
Regardless, any celebrity who spends their free time doing something other than trashing the United States has my endorsement.
Fascinating and eye opening article. What a wild ride Kim has been on. I love the focus on family and mention of supporting her nieces and nephews. I can’t wrap my mind around navigating through the world at Kim’s level of fame in the cancel culture society. I appreciate her belatedly embracing Kanye’s ‘freedom of speech’ moment on SNL. I do hope she is successful in protecting her childrens mental health from online pressure in such a public upbringing.
Personally, I don’t think I would have survived the embarrassment of the sex tape scandal that brought Kim initially into the limelight. I am in awe of the type of strength that took control of that and spin it into a worldwide business empire. Clearly family support and incredible intelligence plus some modern day feminism add up to a powerful package.
Kardashian was instrumental in getting Julius Jones clemency for a cold blooded murder one would have to be a fool to believe he didn't commit. The evidence is beyond overwhelming. It makes the O.J. case look iffy. She's a horrible person, and is doing this clemency work for the same reason she does everything else in her miserable existence: so that people will pay attention to her. I'm bummed that you've leaned into her narcissism.
Really Bari?! This is so below your talent. My concern is that you really think Kardashian is worthy of your time and effort. To go from NYT to this type journalism speaks more about you than Kardashian. I thought you were better than this.
Bari, I'm wearing black today because this was supposed to be a Kardashian-free zone. This is literally the only interview you could have done that would have ever lowered you in my estimation.
But if you can score an interview with Kanye (and maybe you've been playing 7-dimensional chess all along, here), all will be forgiven!
The most telling part of the podcast: The LEFT gave Kim Kardashian "a lot of shit" for dealing with President Trump in order to get Alice out of jail. So, for all the claptrap on race, incarceration, justice, The LEFT would have rather Alice rot than KK work with PDT and get her out. This is the epitome of politics in the now.
I respect you covering a range of topics but you let her off the hook way too much in this interview....you came across as very starstruck and "fan girling". Which is your right but perhaps beneath your usual hard hitting approach.
Life finds a way to consistently surprise you. And more often than not, the biggest surprises stem from misjudging people for being less than they appear.
This interview was so beneath you, Bari. I had never watched the Kardashian reality show and never heard Kim speak before, so I decided to have an open mind and listen to this interview. After doing so, I came to the conclusion that she is nearly as vapid as the stereotype of her suggests. And to top it off,, the interview was extremely BORING. Bari, you have built enormous goodwill with your subscribers because we trust your judgment and believe you to be a serious journalist. Please don't squander your reputation with more interviews like this one.
Really Bari.....?
This is so beneath you.
Kardashian, spawn of one of the men who loosed OJ Simpson back onto the world, is "famous for being famous."
Because she was famous, she cozied up[ to the most vile President in American history, because it suited them both. She wildly misrepresents the case of major drug kingpin Alice Johnson, because everyone in the media treats her as a pet.
When really she's a joke, someone who has repeatedly flunked the California "Baby Bar" designed to keep dilettantes like her out of an already dicey profession. (One I've practiced for 40 years as a trial lawyer)
A sad joke about a society in love with fame and the ability to do nothing.
I like surprises. Thank you for this unexpected interview, Bari.
Congratulations, Kim Kardashian, for passing the Baby Bar and for using your power to help reform the US criminal justice system. These are admirable projects for you during the second half of your life. I know your late father would be proud to learn his daughter is following in his footsteps.
I'd like to direct your attention to another serious issue in the criminal justice system, one that needs your help and expertise. You, of all women, are uniquely qualified due to your public platform, your tenacity, your courage, your willingness to take on controversial projects, your growing knowledge of the US legal system, your California citizenship, your family background, and your strong interest in protecting the rights of women, especially incarcerated women, the most powerless women in the US. If you became involved, you would help not only the incarcerated women of California, but incarcerated women throughout the US and in other countries, too.
This issue is California's SB132, the state bill that now allows any biological male inmate in a California jail or prison to self identify as the opposite sex and transfer into the women's facility where he will share a cell with female inmates. During the past 12 months, three hundred men, many with intact penises, have transferred into women's jails and prisons. There is absolutely no requirement that these biological men have undergone genital surgery, take female hormones, or even self present as the opposite sex. Some male inmates have cynically used SB132 to gain unfettered access to biological women. As you might expect, biological women inmates are terrified because most of these men are physically powerful and some have been convicted of violent crimes including murder, rape and child sexual abuse.
Some female inmates have already been beaten and raped by their biological male cellmates. The situation is so dire, the prison staff now routinely distributes condoms and instructions on how to secure an abortion to all biological women inmates. To add insult to injury, biological women inmates, relatively few of whom are in for violent offenses, are not allowed to complain about being locked in their cell with a potentially violent biological man. The women who do complain are labeled "transphobes" and are subjected to longer sentences. So these terrified women must suffer in silence.
But you, Kim Kardashian, can be the voice for these voiceless women. You can help restore women's private spaces in California's jails and prisons. You can help prevent California's abhorrent policy from becoming the law of the land. There are now approximately two million prisoners in the US, two hundred thousand of whom are biological women who would be at risk. You have the power and the platform to protect these women. To turn this unconscionable situation around.
There is absolutely no reason to place biological women at increased risk of beatings, rape, and pregnancy to protect a subcategory of biological men who could be protected in other ways. One men's prison in California has long had a separate section for gay men and men who claim to be the opposite sex. This facility was grandfathered in, even though it now violates California state law. There is no rational reason why we couldn't set up similar sections in every men's jail or prison throughout California and the rest of the country.
If you would like to learn more about this issue, please contact WoLF, the Women's Liberation Front, an organization that is fighting for women's rights, including the right to women's private spaces in jails and prisons. WoLF is now suing the CDCR (California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation) on behalf of four women inmates and the Women II Women advocacy group to restore single sex prisons in California. I know WoLF and the many thousands of biological women inmates in California would be eternally grateful for whatever help and support you can provide.
Godspeed to you and your budding legal career.
https://www.womensliberationfront.org/womens-prisons
On the heels of the Amanda Knox piece, I am disappointed that Bari stooped to cover this particular celebrity. I found all KK's comments about good parenting to be quite fake.
I tried to listen, Bari, but just couldn’t follow. It is nice that she is for criminal justice reform. I can respect her for that—but other than that—I cannot care too much.
Well, I never expected this interview! I don't care much about KK one way or the other, but did admire the risk she took working with Trump on Alice Johnson and Criminal Justice Reform. I can also very much respect that while she became famous for being famous, she has done something real, and "good", with the opportunity.
On a tangent - this "cultural appropriation" stuff is bullshit, and the idea of being offended by someone taking ideas from "your culture" is simply ridiculous. As long as people have gathered in groups, they have shared their cultures.
Thanks for an interesting change of pace Bari; it was much better than I expected upon seeing the topic.
I don’t know if this should be serious or just a way for Bari to meet someone who is famous for being famous.
“There are a lot of people that deserve to be inside and that need to pay for the heinous crimes that they have done.”
—————————————————-
Good that she added this without being prompted. I do kinda wish she would say this part a little louder just because half the country believes that prisons are full of people who got 30 years for smelling like weed on spring break.
Regardless, any celebrity who spends their free time doing something other than trashing the United States has my endorsement.
Fascinating and eye opening article. What a wild ride Kim has been on. I love the focus on family and mention of supporting her nieces and nephews. I can’t wrap my mind around navigating through the world at Kim’s level of fame in the cancel culture society. I appreciate her belatedly embracing Kanye’s ‘freedom of speech’ moment on SNL. I do hope she is successful in protecting her childrens mental health from online pressure in such a public upbringing.
Personally, I don’t think I would have survived the embarrassment of the sex tape scandal that brought Kim initially into the limelight. I am in awe of the type of strength that took control of that and spin it into a worldwide business empire. Clearly family support and incredible intelligence plus some modern day feminism add up to a powerful package.
Kardashian was instrumental in getting Julius Jones clemency for a cold blooded murder one would have to be a fool to believe he didn't commit. The evidence is beyond overwhelming. It makes the O.J. case look iffy. She's a horrible person, and is doing this clemency work for the same reason she does everything else in her miserable existence: so that people will pay attention to her. I'm bummed that you've leaned into her narcissism.
Really Bari?! This is so below your talent. My concern is that you really think Kardashian is worthy of your time and effort. To go from NYT to this type journalism speaks more about you than Kardashian. I thought you were better than this.
Bari, I'm wearing black today because this was supposed to be a Kardashian-free zone. This is literally the only interview you could have done that would have ever lowered you in my estimation.
But if you can score an interview with Kanye (and maybe you've been playing 7-dimensional chess all along, here), all will be forgiven!